Re: GPLv3 / Affero / RPSL

2003-03-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 09:44:42AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:48:52AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > As you well know, the role of "spokesman for Debian" was arrogated by > > Joseph Carter, who failed to, as I recall, accurately convey to > > TrollTech the concerns

Re: GPLv3 / Affero / RPSL

2003-03-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:48:52AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > I think you have a valid point; at the same time, we should have expressed > > it at the time Troll was drafting the current QPL. > > As you well know, the role of "spokesman for Debian" was arrogated by > Joseph Carter, who fai

Re: GPLv3 / Affero / RPSL

2003-03-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:39:23PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:41:04PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > authors special consideration. Furthermore, I think the most effective > > way -- perhaps the *only* effective way for our "deprecation" of such > > licenses to be

Re: GPLv3 / Affero / RPSL

2003-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:41:04PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > authors special consideration. Furthermore, I think the most effective > way -- perhaps the *only* effective way for our "deprecation" of such > licenses to be more than just lip service is to reject them as violating > the "spiri

Re: GPLv3 / Affero / RPSL

2003-03-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 08:48:13PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > I think we have two sorts of free licenses. One set, which includes BSD > and GPL licenses, which basically give users and authors the same rights; > and the other set, which includes the QPL and licenses with patch clauses, > which g

GPLv3 / Affero / RPSL

2003-03-12 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:17:39PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > But free software was never about forcing people to contribute back. > No, but the GPL is about forcing people to pass the freedoms they have > onto their users. > > Note that you do _not_ get to assume "privacy is good and moral