Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:53:56 +1100 Andrew Donnellan wrote: I think that KPovModeler was developed with the intention that you have POV-Ray installed. It will work fine without it, but it can only save KPMs and POV files, and at the moment there is no other software that can read it. Probably

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 10:41:26AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:53:56 +1100 Andrew Donnellan wrote: I think that KPovModeler was developed with the intention that you have POV-Ray installed. It will work fine without it, but it can only save KPMs and POV files, and

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-21 Thread Josh Triplett
Francesco Poli wrote: Or otherwise, povray upstream authors could be persuaded to relicense in a DFSG-free manner, so that we would *gain* one new interesting package for main, rather than *losing* one (that was wrongly placed in main). ;-) povray upstream actually *wants* to change the

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-21 Thread Andy Teijelo Pérez
El Jueves, 19 de Enero de 2006 5:31, Francesco Poli escribió: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:32:48 +0100 Gerfried Fuchs wrote: I think it should be moved to contrib and ... ...graphics should be rerendered from its actual source at build time. I think that's exagerated. That's just a waste of time

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-21 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Andy Teijelo Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that's exagerated. That's just a waste of time and resources. What else should be done at build time, make all KDE artists repaint and re-photograph all KDE wallpapers? I don't think art can always be treated the same way software is

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:17:38 -0800 Josh Triplett wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: Or otherwise, povray upstream authors could be persuaded to relicense in a DFSG-free manner, so that we would *gain* one new interesting package for main, rather than *losing* one (that was wrongly placed in

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:55:59 + Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 10:41:26AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] Or otherwise, povray upstream authors could be persuaded to relicense in a DFSG-free manner, so that we would *gain* one new interesting package for main,

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-20 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:20:53 -0800 Josh Triplett wrote: Andrew Donnellan wrote: Umm, Kpovmodeler isn't a renderer, it's a modelling program that calls POVRay to actually render it. So KPovModeler should be in contrib. Hmmm. The description certainly didn't give that indication, nor did

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 00:31 +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: I hope some volunteers to install it and check, so that a serious bug can be filed against kpovmodeler, if necessary... Since I used to play with povray before becoming involved with debian. I've just installed kpovmodeler 3.5.0-3, and

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-20 Thread Andrew Donnellan
I think that KPovModeler was developed with the intention that you have POV-Ray installed. It will work fine without it, but it can only save KPMs and POV files, and at the moment there is no other software that can read it. andrew On 1/21/06, Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat,

When can we make some progress on the logo and trademarks? (was Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-19 Thread MJ Ray
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was going to be delayed until a proper trademark policy was in place. -legal came up with a pretty solid plan for what we wanted for a trademark policy; we wanted some review by a lawyer with some knowledge of trademark law. We haven't heard back

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-19 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:32:48 +0100 Gerfried Fuchs wrote: [...] * Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [2006-01-18 11:01]: There are currently two proposals in discussion on debian-vote regarding a position statement on the GNU Free Documentation License. The texts are available at

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-19 Thread Josh Triplett
Francesco Poli wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:32:48 +0100 Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [2006-01-18 11:01]: As an example I want to question if I would have to move xblast* to contrib, because the graphics are rendered with povray, or if there is no need for it?

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-19 Thread Andrew Donnellan
Umm, Kpovmodeler isn't a renderer, it's a modelling program that calls POVRay to actually render it. So KPovModeler should be in contrib. Andrew On 1/20/06, Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:32:48 +0100 Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Anthony Towns

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-19 Thread Josh Triplett
Andrew Donnellan wrote: Umm, Kpovmodeler isn't a renderer, it's a modelling program that calls POVRay to actually render it. So KPovModeler should be in contrib. Hmmm. The description certainly didn't give that indication, nor did the fact that povray was only in Suggests. If it has no

Re: GR: GFDL Position Statement

2006-01-18 Thread Glenn Maynard
You might consider putting a line of blank space between quotes and your reply, like everyone else does; it makes it easier to read. On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:47:08PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: I can understand that the source for those things might be tricky, but often images are