Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-16 Thread Anton Gladky
-04-15 15:43 GMT+02:00 Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk: Paul Wise writes (Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement): On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Anton Gladky wrote: non-transferable (whether by assignment or otherwise unless expressly authorized by ST) non sub- licensable

Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Anton Gladky writes (Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement): Thanks Ian for clarifying. I am discussing with OpenPilot-upstream possible solutions to solve the issue. The package without firmware is not quite useful. All of the supported hardware has chips which require the problematic ST

Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Wise writes (Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement): On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Anton Gladky wrote: non-transferable (whether by assignment or otherwise unless expressly authorized by ST) non sub- licensable Does this mean that people getting a copy of the software from Debian

Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Anton Gladky writes (MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement): Particularly, there is a 3rd-party code from hardware-manufacturer, which is licensed under their own MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement V2 license [2]. ... At the first look, it is a free one: STMicroelectronics (“ST

Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes (Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement): Only the ftp-masters can give you a canonical yes or no on what legal risk they are prepared to accept for non-free (or for that matter, for contrib or main), but they'd almost certainly want to see the other stuff in Restriction

Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-15 Thread Anton Gladky
Hi, thanks Simon and Paul for answers. It looks like really almost impossible to put files with those license even into the non-free. Best regards Anton 2015-04-15 3:07 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise p...@debian.org: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Anton Gladky wrote: non-transferable (whether by

Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Anton Gladky wrote: non-transferable (whether by assignment or otherwise unless expressly authorized by ST) non sub- licensable Does this mean that people getting a copy of the software from Debian do not automatically receive the same license as Debian? --

MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-14 Thread Anton Gladky
d/copyright before uploading and found some files, which are probably make the package non-free. Particularly, there is a 3rd-party code from hardware-manufacturer, which is licensed under their own MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement V2 license [2]. [1] https://www.openpilot.org [2] http

Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-14 Thread Simon McVittie
On 14/04/15 19:25, Anton Gladky wrote: STMicroelectronics (“ST”) grants You a [...] revocable, [...] license As far as I can see, ST can revoke this license at any time, i.e. they can say no, we don't want to allow that any more, any further distribution of our software is copyright

Re: MCD-ST Liberty SW License Agreement

2015-04-14 Thread Riley Baird
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:07:14 +0100 Simon McVittie s...@debian.org wrote: On 14/04/15 19:25, Anton Gladky wrote: STMicroelectronics (“ST”) grants You a [...] revocable, [...] license As far as I can see, ST can revoke this license at any time, i.e. they can say no, we don't want to allow