Andrew Suffield wrote:
with a package where upstream are untrustworthy lying bastards.
I have followed the history of mplayer vs Debian, and I
saw many flames, but yet this line by Andrew Suffield is
an all-time record
why isnt it possible to have a civil discussion on this matter?
this is
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:34:36AM +0200, Andrea Mennucc wrote:
Andrew Suffield wrote:
with a package where upstream are untrustworthy lying bastards.
I have followed the history of mplayer vs Debian, and I
saw many flames, but yet this line by Andrew Suffield is
an all-time record
why
Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with a package where upstream are untrustworthy lying bastards.
It's sad to see that discussion is returning to those levels, oh well..
It's expected. See http://people.debian.org/~mjr/mplayer.html#difficult
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On 16 Jun 2005 10:44:44 GMT, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
with a package where upstream are untrustworthy lying bastards.
It's sad to see that discussion is returning to those levels, oh well..
It's expected. See
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 03:25:19PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
Diego Biurrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I surely hope we're not at the point where constructive dialog has
become impossible. I ask all of you to judge my words on their merit
and not past statements made by other people.
I think
with a package where upstream are untrustworthy lying bastards.
It's sad to see that discussion is returning to those levels, oh well..
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 11:51:43AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 03:25:19PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
Diego Biurrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I surely hope we're not at the point where constructive dialog has
become impossible. I ask all of you to judge my words on
* MJ Ray:
Diego Biurrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was told that it is now up to the FTP masters to review the package
and admit it into the distribution. I was also told that these people
are worried that MPlayer might infringe upon software patents. [...]
..might infringe upon patents
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 10:59:41AM +0200, Måns Rullgård wrote:
Sean Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My understanding is that the opposition to software patents has
engendered a belief that ANY risk is too great. For political
reasons, this may be the right course of action. However,
On Sunday 12 June 2005 08:31 am, MJ Ray wrote:
Kevin B. McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This seems like a potentially bad idea, actually. I certainly can't
cite specific laws, but I seem to recall from similar discussions that
if a patent holder can prove a patent was violated in full
Diego Biurrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I surely hope we're not at the point where constructive dialog has
become impossible. I ask all of you to judge my words on their merit
and not past statements made by other people.
I think we're not, but I don't know whether either mplayer
developers or
Kevin B. McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This seems like a potentially bad idea, actually. I certainly can't
cite specific laws, but I seem to recall from similar discussions that
if a patent holder can prove a patent was violated in full knowledge of
the violation, he is entitled to triple
Diego Biurrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
My problem is that ftpmasters are ephemeral creatures that are very hard
to come by.
I think that's a common feeling about delegates. I think it's
linked to 26 developers holding two or more organisational roles
(and two have 7 each).
[...] At
Diego Biurrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 05:34:02PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
Bugs in some package already in debian doesn't let another package
with those bugs in as a right, though. It just means we have bugs
to deal with.
Yes. Still Debian's position needs to be
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 08:34:39AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
Diego Biurrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 05:34:02PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
Bugs in some package already in debian doesn't let another package
with those bugs in as a right, though. It just means we have bugs
to
MJ Ray wrote:
I'm not quite sure what sort of statement about patents will
convince ftpmasters. Maybe knowing what patents held by who are
definitely infringed by mplayer is good, especially if none of
them are actively enforced, or maybe it is bad.
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