Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-24 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [090424 04:31]: This basically means that public domain dedications are ok if the author is in the US, questionable in most other jurisdictions where we would need clarification from someone familiar with the legal systems, and known to be insufficient in

Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-24 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Donnellan ajdli...@gmail.com wrote: Whilst they might technically still hold copyright, I wonder if a court would consider a statement like 'Dedicated to the public domain' to be an all-permissive licence grant, given the common English meaning of the phrase. Probably hasn't been tested

Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-24 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:05 PM, MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop wrote: This is just a drive-by comment from me that the public domain can mean either the (US?) idea of being shared and shareable without restriction or the (UK?) idea of being known by members of the public and not any sort of

Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-23 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
In the source code of the package my team is managing there is this one file. I'm wondering whether it is DFSG-free and weather GPL v2 only code can link it with/(out) exception. Here is the full copyright statement /* sapphire.cpp -- the Saphire II stream cipher class. Dedicated to the

Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-23 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@gmail.com wrote: In the source code of the package my team is managing there is this one file. I'm wondering whether it is DFSG-free and weather GPL v2 only code can link it with/(out) exception. Here is the full copyright

Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Finney
Andrew Donnellan ajdli...@gmail.com writes: Well, it's public domain, so there's no restrictions on it and it should be fine. (Although there is some debate going on about whether it's in fact possible to disclaim copyright in some jurisdictions, but I highly doubt the author will try to

Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-23 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: This is no guarantee against the author later realising they still hold copyright, changing their mind on their generosity, and enforcing their copyright on those who have violated that copyright. More

Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Finney
Andrew Donnellan ajdli...@gmail.com writes: Whilst they might technically still hold copyright, I wonder if a court would consider a statement like 'Dedicated to the public domain' to be an all-permissive licence grant, given the common English meaning of the phrase. Probably hasn't been

Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:52:44AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Andrew Donnellan ajdli...@gmail.com writes: Well, it's public domain, so there's no restrictions on it and it should be fine. (Although there is some debate going on about whether it's in fact possible to disclaim copyright in

Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@gmail.com writes: /* sapphire.cpp -- the Saphire II stream cipher class. Dedicated to the Public Domain the author and inventor: (Michael Paul Johnson). This code comes with no warranty. Use it at your own risk. Without any regard to the legal

Re: Sapphire.cpp -- Gpl compatible? DFSG-free?

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Finney
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: Wow. Please stop pretending that you have any clue at all what you're talking about. That might be appropriate if I was speaking as any kind of authority. I'm not; I'm presenting arguments and reasons. Please stick to those instead of the personal