Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-25 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On May 25, 2024, at 10:03, Francesco Poli wrote: > > Some minor nitpicks (once again, by a non-native speaker, so they could > be wrong...): it's not the PHP License, version 4.0, which adopts the > 3-clause BSD license; it's the PHP Group which adopts the 3-clause BSD > license as the new

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-25 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 24 May 2024 00:11:39 -0500 Ben Ramsey wrote: > > On May 23, 2024, at 13:40, Francesco Poli wrote: > > > > On Wed, 22 May 2024 23:13:13 -0500 Ben Ramsey wrote: > > > > [...] > >> I’ve updated the RFC according to your suggestions. > > > > Good! :-) > > Thanks for taking the time to

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-23 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On May 23, 2024, at 13:40, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Wed, 22 May 2024 23:13:13 -0500 Ben Ramsey wrote: > > [...] >> I’ve updated the RFC according to your suggestions. > > Good! :-) > Thanks for taking the time to do so. > >> You may find a diff of the changes here: >> >>

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-23 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 22 May 2024 23:13:13 -0500 Ben Ramsey wrote: [...] > I’ve updated the RFC according to your suggestions. Good! :-) Thanks for taking the time to do so. > You may find a diff of the changes here: > >

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-22 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On May 21, 2024, at 19:58, Ben Ramsey wrote: > > This is something that didn’t cross my mind while I was putting together the > RFC, so I’m glad I posted to this list. > > Thank you for the suggestions! I’ll update the RFC and will reply here when > I’ve made the changes. I’ve updated the

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-21 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On May 21, 2024, at 16:32, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Sun, 19 May 2024 14:53:48 -0500 Ben Ramsey wrote: > >> On May 19, 2024, at 11:42, Francesco Poli wrote: > [...] >>> If the PHP Group decides to elect the 3-clause BSD license as the next >>> version (4.0) of the PHP License, then clause

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-21 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On May 21, 2024, at 11:49, Richard Laager wrote: > > On 2024-05-19 14:53, Ben Ramsey wrote: >> One of my goals with the RFC is to get rid of the idea of a “PHP License,” >> so it deprecates the PHP License and *replaces* it with the BSD 3-Clause >> License. I don’t want there to be a “PHP

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 19 May 2024 14:53:48 -0500 Ben Ramsey wrote: > On May 19, 2024, at 11:42, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > If the PHP Group decides to elect the 3-clause BSD license as the next > > version (4.0) of the PHP License, then clause 5 of the PHP License version > > 3.01 will kick in and any

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-21 Thread Richard Laager
On 2024-05-19 14:53, Ben Ramsey wrote: One of my goals with the RFC is to get rid of the idea of a “PHP License,” so it deprecates the PHP License and *replaces* it with the BSD 3-Clause License. I don’t want there to be a “PHP License, version 4.0.” I think that will continue to cause

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-19 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On May 19, 2024, at 11:42, Francesco Poli wrote: > > Here's some feedback about version 0.3 of your RFC. > >> The proposed changes for the PHP software repository will not affect >> the PHP Manual. The PHP Manual will remain licensed under the Creative >> Commons Attribution 3.0 License or

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-19 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 18 May 2024 15:18:36 -0500 Ben Ramsey wrote: > Hi, all! Hello Ben! > > Over the years, the open source community, including Debian, has had > a few lengthy discussions and disagreements regarding the PHP > license.[^1][^2][^3] The TL;DR sentiment of all these discussions > amounts to:

Re: Updating the PHP license

2024-05-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 03:18:36PM -0500, Ben Ramsey wrote: > Hi, all! > > Over the years, the open source community, including Debian, has had a few > lengthy discussions and disagreements regarding the PHP license.[^1][^2][^3] > The TL;DR sentiment of all these discussions amounts to: change

Updating the PHP license

2024-05-18 Thread Ben Ramsey
Hi, all! Over the years, the open source community, including Debian, has had a few lengthy discussions and disagreements regarding the PHP license.[^1][^2][^3] The TL;DR sentiment of all these discussions amounts to: change the license to something well-understood and less problematic. So,