On Sat, 3 Oct 2003, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Fedor Zuev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The same (see above) point is not correct for political
speech. Unlimitedly modifiable political speech is _not_ a normal
mode of operation and never was.
Political speech has been around for about two
Don Armstrong wrote:
The most recent discussion is at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200307/msg01633.html
Thanks, I've read all the related threads. It occurs to me that there were
three issues brought up:
- marking the changes made on imported libraries. This would
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:56:26AM +0200, Gabucino wrote:
- Sam Hocevar raised a concern about libavcodec. I do not intend to answer
this, since xine was allowed into Debian with a full, included libavcodec.
Sorry, that doesn't work. If the library has problems, it has problems
regardless
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Florian Weimer wrote:
Just interpreting the GPL according to the laws of Germany might result
in further restrictions. For example, GPLed software released before
1995 is not redistributable over the Internet.
Can you give me spme online Resources about it ?
In Germany,
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003, Gabucino wrote:
- marking the changes made on imported libraries. This would
currently include: libfaad2, libmpflac, libmpdvdkit2, libmpeg2.
Let me clarify the situation.
[SNIP -- These all seem to be packaging considerations and as such are
orthogonal to the legal
Fedor Zuev wrote:
AFAIK, you are right in general, but there a small
correction needed. I apologize, if you cite any official source, but
all I read about this appears slightly otherwise. Copyright holder
cannot grant right for as yet unknown types of use, not the right
for
Glenn Maynard wrote:
Sorry, that doesn't work. If the library has problems, it has problems
regardless of whether it was previously allowed into the archive or not.
Yes, someone here told you'd (all) be looking into xine's libavcodec issues.
More than a half year has passed, and nothing
Don Armstrong wrote:
d, libmpeg2 - We - the core developers - do not intend to waste
time searching for modification dates and such (nor do we know
what exactly you wish for),
All that's needed is to comply with GPL 2a [and probably for any other
GPLed libraries which you've
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003, Glenn Maynard wrote:
Of course, I don't know the details of any related patents (and don't
wish to); I'm only going from what I've heard: TMPGEnc had MPEG-2 issues,
MP3 encoding issues are well-known, and VirtualDub had ASF issues.
(These are all issues of patents that
On Tuesday, Oct 7, 2003, at 03:01 US/Eastern, Fedor Zuev wrote:
But copyright is not the [only] thing I said about. I said
not about copyright, but about normal mode of operation, which is
orthogonal to the copyright itself.
Have you seen Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] of
October 5,
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 10:59:22AM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote:
As a result of KANOU's investigation, LABO123 32-dot font is same as the
bitmap font (TYPEBANK Mincho M) that was developed by TYPEBANK Co.,
Are these all bitmap fonts, then?
In some countries (notably the US), copyright does not
Bcc to Avery Lee (phaeron at virtualdub dot org); I don't want to stick
his address in the archives for harvesting without his permission.
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:00:28PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote:
Of course, I don't know the details of any related patents (and don't
wish to); I'm only
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 12:24:06PM +0200, Gabucino wrote:
Yes, someone here told you'd (all) be looking into xine's libavcodec issues.
More than a half year has passed, and nothing happened. So I continue to
disregard this matter.
The only mention of libavcodec being in main that I've seen is
Here's Avery Lee's response:
I do not know of an actual instance in which the ASF patent was
enforced. What happened was that I received a phone call from member
of the Windows Media team informing me that my ASF code was illegal,
despite being constructed from scratch via data reverse
Glenn Maynard wrote:
One version of VirtualDub could read ASF files, and that was quickly removed.
That was back in 2000, and I just checked: the news entries appear to have
fallen off the site.
There is a significant part to these patent enforcement stories: they all
happen on Win32 platform.
Glenn Maynard wrote:
Huh? Why does xine use -DCONFIG_ENCODERS ? It can't even encode.
Don't ask me, ask the maintainers of Xine.
I'd rather ask the .deb packager(s), because that is our current subject.
Oops. Looks like Xine has ASF support elsewhere, which is a problem.
So? Is it going
Gabucino [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Glenn Maynard wrote:
One version of VirtualDub could read ASF files, and that was quickly removed.
That was back in 2000, and I just checked: the news entries appear to have
fallen off the site.
There is a significant part to these patent enforcement
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 20:53, Brian T. Sniffen wrote:
Gabucino [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is a significant part to these patent enforcement stories: they all
happen on Win32 platform. Microsoft has never enforced media patents on
Linux
market, as far as I know.
That's irrelevant
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003, Joe Drew wrote:
So far as I know, it is not illegal to infringe on somebody else's
patents. AIUI patent holders can enforce (or not) their patents at
will by suing, but doing so is their perogative and no law makes it
wrong for someone to infringe on a patent which isn't
Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003, Joe Drew wrote:
So far as I know, it is not illegal to infringe on somebody else's
patents. AIUI patent holders can enforce (or not) their patents at
will by suing, but doing so is their perogative and no law makes it
wrong for
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 08:53:44PM -0400, Brian T. Sniffen wrote:
Gabucino [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Glenn Maynard wrote:
One version of VirtualDub could read ASF files, and that was quickly
removed.
That was back in 2000, and I just checked: the news entries appear to have
fallen off
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 08:53:44PM -0400, Brian T. Sniffen wrote:
There is a significant part to these patent enforcement stories: they all
happen on Win32 platform. Microsoft has never enforced media patents on
Linux
market, as far as I know.
That's irrelevant if they actually own the
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 06:15:20PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003, Joe Drew wrote:
So far as I know, it is not illegal to infringe on somebody else's
patents. AIUI patent holders can enforce (or not) their patents at
will by suing, but doing so is their perogative and no
[Billy: Sorry, meant for this to go to the list.]
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003, Billy Biggs wrote:
Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Well, it is actually illegal, [...]
It would be really nice to have references for those of us who
haven't taken an IP law course. I don't think this one is obvious.
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003, Steve Langasek wrote:
Last I'd heard, knowing infringement in the US required the
complicity of a patent lawyer, since mere mortals are no longer
deemed qualified to judge for themselves whether a given usage is
infringing.
Yeah... that or being told by a patent holder
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 08:52:34PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
Last I'd heard, knowing infringement in the US required the complicity
of a patent lawyer, since mere mortals are no longer deemed qualified to
judge for themselves whether a given usage is infringing. :P
As I understand it (which
Fedor Zuev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Plagiarism and|or corruption of social, political and,
especially religious texts was unanimously considered harmful and
was punishable a millennia before invention of the first copyright
law[*]. This was solely in the interest of public, without any
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now, 287(a)[2] limits the damages that can be assessed against an
un-notified infringer, but doesn't change the illegality of the
infringing.
So what? We have an existing policy.
You've lost me here.
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now, 287(a)[2] limits the damages that can be assessed against an
un-notified infringer, but doesn't change the illegality of the
infringing.
So what? We have an existing policy.
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