Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The package is the result of collection and assembling of two preexisting materials. However, what is the reason for qualifying the resulting work as an original work of authorship? The definition seems to suggest that

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Andrew Suffield wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:34:28PM +0100, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: The problem is that all such definitions are based on the notion that a work is either something tangible, or a performance act. They simply don't apply well to computer programs. You're living in the

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But anyway, although computer programs definitely are recognized as subject to copyright in the EU, they do not fit the definition of derivative work or adaptation very well. There just is no guidance in this area. If you translate something, turn a

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The package is the result of collection and assembling of two preexisting materials. However, what is the reason for qualifying the resulting work as an original work of

Re: [POSITION SUMMARY] Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 17:22, Andrew Suffield wrote: Actually, it's closer than you think. Any product [arbitrary definition] that requires all three components is a derivative work of all of them; that will almost certainly violate one or more of the licenses. It may be; it may not be. Not

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The original issue, as far as I understood is, was whether it is allowed to bundle a GPL-licensed plugin with a host program under a GPL-incompatible license. Or actually, a host that also uses a second plugin which is under

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Måns Rullgård [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Exactly my point. What would the equivalent of dynamic linking be? A book that says on the first page: take chapters 3 and 6 from book Foo and insert after chapter 4 in this book, then read the result. Wasn't there a case with a book containing questions and

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: Arnoud Engelfriet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But anyway, although computer programs definitely are recognized as subject to copyright in the EU, they do not fit the definition of derivative work or adaptation very well. There just is no guidance in

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Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: Wouldn't such a book be allowed? I can't see anything that would stop it. You're probably right. I wasn't looking for something that wouldn't be allowed, but for something that is as close as possible as linking. It seems that what I invented,

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Måns Rullgård
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Küster) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: Wouldn't such a book be allowed? I can't see anything that would stop it. You're probably right. I wasn't looking for something that wouldn't be allowed, but for something that is as close as possible as

Status of new LPPL version?

2003-12-12 Thread Frank Küster
Dear all, does anybody know what is going to happen with regard to LPPL-1.3, and in which timeline? The latest mails I found were http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200306/msg00206.html (a new draft) and two analyses by Branden Robinson, with one follow-up by Frank

Re: Plugins, libraries, licenses and Debian

2003-12-12 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Küster) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Måns Rullgård) schrieb: Wouldn't such a book be allowed? I can't see anything that would stop it. You're probably right. I wasn't looking for something that wouldn't be allowed, but

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-12 Thread Joel Baker
[ Adding -legal to the Cc; it may become inappropriate for -devel, at ] [ some point, in which case folks should remove the -devel Cc. The -bsd ] [ Cc should probably remain no matter what, as this could potentially ] [ affect any of the BSD ports.

Re: Bug#223819: RFA: murasaki -- another HotPlug Agent

2003-12-12 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Pierre Machard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last week a RC bug was filled on this package (#223197). A good solution to close this bug is probably to upload a newer version, No, it seems to be yet another fallout of the linux-kernel-header transition. There are quite a lot of those at the