Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:15:35 -0400 Arc Riley wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It says that I must offer an opportunity to receive the Corresponding Source of [my] version by providing access to the Corresponding Source from a network server

Re: Bug#497115: gpsdrive: possibly non-free file scripts/gpsfetchmap.pl

2008-08-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:42:15 +0300 Sami Liedes wrote: Package: gpsdrive Version: 2.10~pre4-6 Severity: normal I would say this is serious... [Cc: to debian-legal] I am replying to the bug number and to the bug submitter, while Cc:ing debian-legal. Hi, The source package contains

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread davi . leals
Francesco Poli wrote: Arc Riley wrote: If you setup a system which required a delay, that would be questionable. I am not talking about an intentional delay. I am talking about something like the following scenario: the source-hosting server goes down, while I am on vacation on another

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:30:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: Arc Riley wrote: If you setup a system which required a delay, that would be questionable. I am not talking about an intentional delay. I am talking about something like the following scenario: the

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread davi . leals
Francesco Poli wrote: davi.leals wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: Arc Riley wrote: If you setup a system which required a delay, that would be questionable. I am not talking about an intentional delay. I am talking about something like the following scenario: the

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/8/30 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just host the source code at Savannah or any other similar service. How does that scale when a lot of users modify or customize the code? And, how can one do that and at the same time keep being anonymous (dissident test)? Greetings, Miry PS: I agree with

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread davi . leals
Francesco Poli wrote: davi.leals@ wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: The problem is: while Savannah is down, am I failing to comply with the license? Everybody understand there is no perfect system. Even planes fails some times! Anyway, as Arc Riley exposed, if you fear, just host the

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread davi . leals
Miriam Ruiz wrote: davi.leals wrote: Just host the source code at Savannah or any other similar service. How does that scale when a lot of users modify or customize the code? Do you know about branches? Anyway nobody force users to create a new branch. They can just create a new repository

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:29:57 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: [...] The problem is: while Savannah is down, am I failing to comply with the license? Everybody understand there is no perfect system. Even planes fails some times! Anyway, as Arc Riley exposed, if you

Bug#497200: ITP: rt2860-source -- source for RT2860 wireless adapter kernel module

2008-08-30 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Damyan Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: rt2860-source Version : 1.7.0.0 Upstream Author : Ralink Tech Inc * URL : http://www.ralinktech.com/ * License : GPL-2+ some binary non-free firmware Programming Lang: C

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread Arc Riley
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/30 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just host the source code at Savannah or any other similar service. How does that scale when a lot of users modify or customize the code? These are technical challenges, not legal

Re: Bug#497115: gpsdrive: possibly non-free file scripts/gpsfetchmap.pl

2008-08-30 Thread Andreas Putzo
Hi, On Aug 30 01:42, Sami Liedes wrote: [Cc: to debian-legal] The source package contains the file scripts/gpsfetchmap.pl, which has this copyright notice: #!/usr/bin/perl # gpsfetchmap # # You are allowed to modify the

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread Bryan Donlan
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:15:35 -0400 Arc Riley wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It says that I must offer an opportunity to receive the Corresponding Source of [my] version

25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-30 Thread Sami Liedes
[Note that I'm not subscribed to either d-d or d-legal so if you want to ask me something, the quickest way is to Cc: me] Hi, I grepped the source tarballs in Lenny (testing) main section for the note DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - it is generated by Glade. which indicates the file is generated using

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread Jeff Licquia
Francesco Poli wrote: Am I failing to comply with the license? The only person who could say for sure would be a judge. But, in general, it's worth noting that the law is not as robotic as this. We could imagine all kinds of scenarios that could be construed as violations of all kinds of

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-30 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Sami Liedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grepped the source tarballs in Lenny (testing) main section for the note DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - it is generated by Glade. which indicates the file is generated using the Glade UI editor. Then I checked if these packages

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Bryan Donlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:15:35 -0400 Arc Riley wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Am I failing to comply

Re: Is AGPLv3 DFSG-free?

2008-08-30 Thread Arc Riley
This thread has slipped into absurdity. These fringe cases with the viewpoint that free software copyright holders are just biting at the bit to take people to court retroactively for short-term lack of compliance at no fault of the software modifier. The GPL could be abused by a copyright