Re: orphaning fetchmail

2000-12-15 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:04:15PM +0100, Christian Surchi wrote: fetchmail is licensed under GPL license. What about conflict between GPL and BSD clauses from openssl? I mean the problem with mutt and ssl. What about lynx-ssl, links-ssl, fetchmail-ssl and others? On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at

Re: orphaning fetchmail

2000-12-15 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Raul Miller wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 08:04:15PM +0100, Christian Surchi wrote: fetchmail is licensed under GPL license. What about conflict between GPL and BSD clauses from openssl? I mean the problem with mutt and ssl. What about lynx-ssl, links-ssl,

plain language disclaimer

2000-12-15 Thread Paul Kienzle
Hi all, Has anyone written a plain language disclaimer? It bothers me to see such redundant language on licenses, especially when they must appear in every file. I have a package ready to be distributed with Debian as soon as I sort out the license. Is legalese really a legal necessity, or is

Re: plain language disclaimer

2000-12-15 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Paul Kienzle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is clearly redundant and awkward, so how about: This program is provided as is without warranty of any kind. Use it at your own risk. Nah, that's way too snappy. How about: 11. FOR REASONS INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE FACT THAT

Re: plain language disclaimer

2000-12-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Paul Kienzle wrote: BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, Does the free license change the applicability of the law? And if it does, doesn't the fact that the license was provided for free immediately apply even if you don't mention that it

Re: orphaning fetchmail

2000-12-15 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:31:09AM -0700, John Galt wrote: I hear the wheel was also not released under the GPL I hear that the wheel is not considered intellectual property. -- Raul

Re: orphaning fetchmail

2000-12-15 Thread John Galt
Okay, I'll spell it out. Rewriting BSDL'd stuff with the GPL is one of the things that really gets in the BSD community's craw. Basically they take it as an embrace and extend move by the FSF. It's rather ironic coming from me, but can't we all just forget the BSD/GPL bullshit for once and

Re: orphaning fetchmail

2000-12-15 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:31:09AM -0700, John Galt wrote: I hear the wheel was also not released under the GPL I hear that the wheel is not considered intellectual property.

Re: orphaning fetchmail

2000-12-15 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:06:06PM -0700, John Galt wrote: Okay, I'll spell it out. Rewriting BSDL'd stuff with the GPL is one of the things that really gets in the BSD community's craw. Basically they take it as an embrace and extend move by the FSF. It's rather ironic coming from

Re: orphaning fetchmail

2000-12-15 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 01:21:56PM +1300, Carey Evans wrote: I believe openssl inherits most of its GPL-incompatible clauses from ssleay. For example, I have an old copy of fcrypt.c, which is part of Eric Young's libdes, which includes: * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or

Re: orphaning fetchmail

2000-12-15 Thread Nick Moffitt
begin John Galt quotation: I know that serious consideration of anything over one line (hence your prediliction for the one-line dismissal of anyone who you have had disagreements with in the past) is beyond your skills, but please don't remind me of it Perhaps your time would be