How to proceed with an ITP of questionably licensed software?

2004-06-10 Thread Andrew Pollock
[[ Please CC me on all correspondence, I'm not subscribed ]] Hi, I've filed an ITP (WNPP #252999) on some software that is licensed under the GPL. The source does not contain anything like a COPYING or LICENSE file or anything where the author asserts copyright over the work, or states that

Re: Mozilla Public License is non-free: stipulates court venue ?

2004-06-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 02:31:44PM -0400, Lex Spoon wrote: Choice of venue aside, I question whether if you sue me and lose, you pay me my costs is free. That might be a good policy for laws (or perhaps not; I'm not very informed of the legal theory behind that), but I'm not sure if

Re: Mozilla Public License is non-free: stipulates court venue ?

2004-06-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 06:50:14PM +, Jim Marhaus wrote: Mozilla Relicensing FAQ 2. http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/relicensing-faq.html#not-yet-relicensed This essentially says that we're trying to get everyone's permission; we're close and expect to be there soon. As long as we believe this

Re: How to proceed with an ITP of questionably licensed software?

2004-06-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 02:40:20PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: [[ Please CC me on all correspondence, I'm not subscribed ]] Please set the Mail-Followup-To header to indicate this. I've emailed the author and asked if he could add such assertions to a subsequent release of the software, but

Re: How to proceed with an ITP of questionably licensed software?

2004-06-10 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 01:02:08AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 02:40:20PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: [[ Please CC me on all correspondence, I'm not subscribed ]] Please set the Mail-Followup-To header to indicate this. Must learn how to do that in Mutt... Ah, E

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FAQ Improvements (was: license change for POSIX manpages)

2004-06-10 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
... for the manpages to be Free, you should be able to use them for totally non-POSIX purposes, and with the clause as written, it seems that you can't. ... be a recurring blind spot in people who think they're writing free licenses; they only consider the most common reason for making

Re: license change for POSIX manpages

2004-06-10 Thread Florian Weimer
* Josh Triplett: Florian Weimer wrote: * Josh Triplett: One other issue: does and the nroff source is included mean that if I want to hand someone a printed copy of a manual page, I have to either print the nroff source or supply it on an attached disk? This seems onerous for physical

Re: license change for POSIX manpages

2004-06-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 02:41:08PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: * Josh Triplett: Florian Weimer wrote: * Josh Triplett: One other issue: does and the nroff source is included mean that if I want to hand someone a printed copy of a manual page, I have to either print the nroff source or

Re: license change for POSIX manpages

2004-06-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 05:23:51PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: to give any third party, this fails the Desert Island (or some variant of it) test. Nobody on a desert island can be requested to do anything. Sure you can; send a message in a bottle (or via one-way satellite). Lots of

Re: DFSG#10 [was: Re: Draft Debian-legal summary of the LGPL]

2004-06-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 11:20:56PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: How does the ASF interpret the clause? I don't know, but if you think this clause is ambiguous enough that clarification from Apache is worthwhile, remember that

Re: license change for POSIX manpages

2004-06-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 04:14:40PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 05:23:51PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: to give any third party, this fails the Desert Island (or some variant of it) test. Nobody on a desert island can be requested to do anything. Sure you

request-tracker3: license shadiness

2004-06-10 Thread Michael Poole
The start of /usr/share/request-tracker3/libexec/webmux.pl is: #!/usr/bin/perl # BEGIN LICENSE BLOCK # # Copyright (c) 1996-2003 Jesse Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # (Except where explictly superceded by other copyright notices) # # This work is made available to you under the terms of Version

Draft Summary: MPL is not DFSG free

2004-06-10 Thread Jim Marhaus
Hi all - The consensus from debian-legal archives and current discussion seems to be the MPL is non-free. Below is a summary of reasons, compiled from commentary on the MPL and the similar Nokia license reviewed last August. By the way, the following software is apparently licensed under the

Re: request-tracker3: license shadiness

2004-06-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 04:51:06PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: The start of /usr/share/request-tracker3/libexec/webmux.pl is: #!/usr/bin/perl # BEGIN LICENSE BLOCK # # Copyright (c) 1996-2003 Jesse Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # (Except where explictly superceded by other copyright

Re: Draft Summary: MPL is not DFSG free

2004-06-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 09:49:36PM +, Jim Marhaus wrote: 2. It requires distributors to retroactively notify recipients about third-party legal problems with the software (Dissident test). Lousy description. Both this, and the dissident test failure, are problems, but they aren't the same

Re: request-tracker3: license shadiness

2004-06-10 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Xoves, 10 de Xuño de 2004 ás 16:51:06 -0400, Michael Poole escribía: Can Debian properly redistribute rt3 if rt3 alleges both distribution under the GPL and GPL-incompatible restrictions? Does the fact that the restrictions are non-enforceable (at least in the US) enter consideration? I

Re: request-tracker3: license shadiness

2004-06-10 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Michael Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED]: # Unless otherwise specified, all modifications, corrections or # extensions to this work which alter its source code become the # property of Best Practical Solutions, LLC when submitted for # inclusion in the work. What is the impact of the third

Re: request-tracker3: license shadiness

2004-06-10 Thread Michael Poole
Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS writes: Michael Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED]: # Unless otherwise specified, all modifications, corrections or # extensions to this work which alter its source code become the # property of Best Practical Solutions, LLC when submitted for # inclusion in the work. What is

Re: Draft Summary: MPL is not DFSG free

2004-06-10 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Jim Marhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't really want to defend the MPL, but ... | 2.1. The Initial Developer Grant. | [...] | (d) Notwithstanding Section 2.1(b) above, no patent license is | granted: 1) for code that You delete from the Original Code; 2) |

Re: Draft Summary: MPL is not DFSG free

2004-06-10 Thread Josh Triplett
Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: I don't know much about the US legal system. How different is this from the ordinary default situation? If I were a citizen of, or an entity chartered or registered to do business in the United States of America would I normally be able to safely ignore cases

Re: request-tracker3: license shadiness

2004-06-10 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Michael Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: # Unless otherwise specified, all modifications, corrections or # extensions to this work which alter its source code become the # property of Best Practical Solutions, LLC when submitted for # inclusion in the work. This is a GPL-incompatible

Re: Creative Commons Attribution license element

2004-06-10 Thread Nic Suzor
Evan Prodromou [Wed Jun 09, 2004 at 02:46:23PM -0400]: I can try to bring the subject up on the cc-licenses list again. I am involved with the adaptation of the CC licences in Australia, and have raised the issues with the drafting team. I have also pointed out the problems to our project