Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-09 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/9/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/9/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I have to admit it didn't occur to me that anyone might think my opinion represented an opposite consensus. More widely recognized debian-legal personages such as Raul and Andrew

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-09 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/9/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I read it, what you've said here is that you'll take legal action against people who respond to your email messages in a fashion you don't approve of. ... Oh, and if it helps; feel free to respond directly to me in any fashion not otherwise

Re: GPL and linking

2005-05-09 Thread Humberto Massa
Batist Paklons wrote: This however doesn't really change a lot about our discussion about the GPL. It is my belief that the GPL is horribly drafted. One should either choose the simplistic beauty of a BSD style license, or choose a carefully drafted legalese text, such as the IBM Public License. I

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-09 Thread Humberto Massa
Raul Miller wrote: On 5/7/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/6/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/6/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/6/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe you're objecting to the that is to say phrase,

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-09 Thread Humberto Massa
Jakob Bohm wrote: Sorry, I misspoke; contracts are construed against the offeror, not against the drafter, when there's a distinction. The offeror had the option of proposing language as explicit as he or she chose, so ambiguities are as a matter of law construed against his or her interests.

Chose place and time. It will do the rest.

2005-05-09 Thread Graham
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Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-09 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/9/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only time a collective work is not a derivative work is when the the collective work lacks sufficient originality under copyright law to be granted separate copyright protection.

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-d ev replacement :-()

2005-05-09 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/9/05, Humberto Massa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Succinctly describing the flaw: 1. '' a work based on the Program means either the Program or any derivative work under copyright law '' -- this is a definition. It defines what the expression work based on the Program means throughout the

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-09 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/9/05, Humberto Massa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on, Raul: a collective work is NEVER a derivative work. Never ever ever. What's this? Proof by repeated assertion? A collective work CONTAINS another works, and is copyrightable per se if it is intelectually novel by virtue of its

Re: GPL and linking

2005-05-09 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/9/05, Humberto Massa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't re-state something saying a different thing. GPL#0 says that a work based on the Program is a derivative work under copyright law, and then says that is to say, a work containing..., which is NOT a re-statement of a derivative work

Re: Artistic2?

2005-05-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 6 May 2005 10:00:12 +0200 David Schmitt wrote: On Friday 06 May 2005 02:28, John Goerzen wrote: Hi, I recently came across ths Artistic 2 (2.0beta5) license at: http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/LICENSE/Artistic-2 I couldn't find any previous reference to a DFSG discussion

Re: GPL and linking

2005-05-09 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 06:25:46PM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: On 5/9/05, Humberto Massa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Batist, I think you are mistaken about the meaning of the any later version copyright license... the terms are precisely '' This program is free software; you can

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-09 Thread Raul Miller
I want to revisit this one point. On 5/9/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not true under the Berne Convention or under 17 USC as I read them; indeed, the term collective works and its superset compilations appear to be explicitly reserved in 17 USC 101 (1976 and later)