Re: Unteralterbach visual novel (was: Re: Introduction)

2014-03-10 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2014-03-10 2:44 GMT+01:00 Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org: For that reason, I would advise not to include this game in Debian (and not to spend your time on packaging it). But note that I'm not setting the rules here. If you feel strongly that it adds value to the system, feel free to explain

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel (was: Re: Introduction)

2014-03-10 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org writes: Summary: I've tried the game, and don't think it's suitable for Debian. Summary: I think I have understood Bas' objections and agree to an extent. However, I disagree with his conclusion that the game is not suitable for inclusion in a free operating system

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel (was: Re: Introduction)

2014-03-10 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2014-03-10 14:48 GMT+01:00 Nils Dagsson Moskopp n...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net: Miriam Ruiz mir...@debian.org writes: in the web page, and reading the comments in previous mails. I find your description of the game very disturbing, and I'm thinking that it may be even be triggering for some

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel (was: Re: Introduction)

2014-03-10 Thread Nils Dagsson Moskopp
Miriam Ruiz mir...@debian.org writes: 2014-03-10 2:44 GMT+01:00 Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org: For that reason, I would advise not to include this game in Debian (and not to spend your time on packaging it). But note that I'm not setting the rules here. If you feel strongly that it adds

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel

2014-03-10 Thread Walter Landry
Nils Dagsson Moskopp n...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net wrote: Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org writes: I am going to start with trying to package Bernd und das Rätsel um Unteralterbach - a visual novel set in present-day bavaria containing (optional) erotic content The erotic content is not

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel (was: Re: Introduction)

2014-03-10 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi there, On 10/03/14 at 14:57 +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: Having read your report, even if someone decided to package it, I wouldn't advise to include it in the archive without speaking beforehand with lawyers that could advice us on the possible risks. I'm not familiar enought with the

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel

2014-03-10 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi, IANAL, but this discussion has got me wondering were we should draw the line. Summary: in my opinion, if you intend on uploading a package which as fair chances of being classified as pornography *somewhere*, please don't. Argumentation follows (Nils, obviously I'm not meaning you by you):

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel

2014-03-10 Thread Christoph Biedl
Thibaut Paumard wrote... IANAL, but this discussion has got me wondering were we should draw the line. Summary: in my opinion, if you intend on uploading a package which as fair chances of being classified as pornography *somewhere*, please don't. Argumentation follows (Nils, obviously I'm

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel

2014-03-10 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 08:31:24PM +0100, Christoph Biedl wrote: Thibaut Paumard wrote... IANAL, but this discussion has got me wondering were we should draw the line. Summary: in my opinion, if you intend on uploading a package which as fair chances of being classified as pornography

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel

2014-03-10 Thread Christoph Biedl
Paul Tagliamonte wrote... On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 08:31:24PM +0100, Christoph Biedl wrote: Thibaut Paumard wrote... IANAL, but this discussion has got me wondering were we should draw the line. Summary: in my opinion, if you intend on uploading a package which as fair chances of

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel

2014-03-10 Thread Mateusz Jończyk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 W dniu 10.03.2014 20:31, Christoph Biedl pisze: Thibaut Paumard wrote... IANAL, but this discussion has got me wondering were we should draw the line. Summary: in my opinion, if you intend on uploading a package which as fair chances of

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel (was: Re: Introduction)

2014-03-10 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 09:39:07PM +0100, Nils Dagsson Moskopp wrote: If the player is considered a pedophile, there are opportunities for abuse at every corner. Similar to other games, where you have a gun. The only game I know that challenges that is Aquaria. After acquiring the skill to

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel

2014-03-10 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi, Le 10/03/2014 21:12, Christoph Biedl a écrit : Paul Tagliamonte wrote... On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 08:31:24PM +0100, Christoph Biedl wrote: Thibaut Paumard wrote... IANAL, but this discussion has got me wondering were we should draw the line. Summary: in my opinion, if you intend on

Re: Unteralterbach visual novel (was: Re: Introduction)

2014-03-10 Thread Joseph Neal
Your impression that it has something to do with child sexualization is a formidable understatement. That's what the entire game is all about. The protagonist starts working for the police department going after child pornography producers. These producers turn out to be the children