AW: Use of Debian Linux as basis of commercially dsitributed appliance box

2014-07-29 Thread Renner, Clemens
Ian, thank you for taking the time to give us valuable advice. We have already been in touch with our lawyer to check the circumstances of our actual application code, which also makes use of open-source software components, libraries, servers, etc. By now, I think it makes sense to also

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:55 PM, James Wade jpsw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, There seems to be some confusion over the PHP License. We had this bug report into a PEAR project which outlines that Debian cannot include any projects that fall under the PHP License. *

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
debian-legal isn't the body that makes this decision, you might want ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org Thanks, Paul On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:55 PM, James Wade jpsw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, There seems to be some

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 05:20:21PM +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: If you feel to dispute this please take your *well-formed* and *well-thought* arguments to debian-legal. ... to discuss it. d-legal is a proper venue for *discussing* it, but it's not the right one to discuss the actual

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@ubuntu.com wrote: debian-legal isn't the body that makes this decision, you might want ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org Thanks, Paul Hi Paul, To quote Ondřej from

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 05:20:21PM +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: If you feel to dispute this please take your *well-formed* and *well-thought* arguments to debian-legal. ... to discuss it. d-legal is a proper

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Walter Landry
Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: I've find it a bit disturbing, that ftpmasters can make a decision on legal grounds(which is the probably the highest priority for debian as far as I'm concerned), without any backing from debian-legal debian-legal has no authority to decide anything. It

Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 07/29/2014 03:16 PM, Walter Landry wrote: Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: I've find it a bit disturbing, that ftpmasters can make a decision on legal grounds(which is the probably the highest priority for debian as far as I'm concerned), without any backing from debian-legal

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 04:47:34PM +0200, Ferenc Kovacs a écrit : from the replies on the debian mailing lists it seems that this decision on dropping any project using the php license distributed outside of php-src is controversial to say the least. Hello Ferenc, from an outsider point of

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Ben Finney
Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com writes: I see absolutely no problem with PHP projects distributed from *.php.net carrying the PHP license. The license talks about PHP Software which we define as software you get from/via *.php.net. Specifically, the license text

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Riley Baird
On 30/07/14 10:21, Ben Finney wrote: Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com writes: I see absolutely no problem with PHP projects distributed from *.php.net carrying the PHP license. The license talks about PHP Software which we define as software you get from/via *.php.net. Specifically, the

Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Walter, On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Walter Landry wlan...@caltech.edu wrote: Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: I've find it a bit disturbing, that ftpmasters can make a decision on legal grounds(which is the probably the highest priority for debian as far as I'm concerned),

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-29 Thread Ben Finney
Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch writes: On 30/07/14 10:21, Ben Finney wrote: Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com writes: I see absolutely no problem with PHP projects distributed from *.php.net carrying the PHP license. The license talks about PHP Software