Re: New Apache license compatible with GPL? (Was: [Talin@ACM.org: Suggestions for wording...?])

2000-06-18 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 10:17:24PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: Is the new Apache License really GPL compatible? Not according to the FSF. Cf. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu "A dynamic char

Re: Good news: Free Haskell to come out RSN!

1999-01-13 Thread David Starner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Starner: No, I don't believe so. Libreadline is GPL and I don't believe it can be linked with the Artistic license. Gergely Madarasz: Hmm... isn't the Artistic licence compatible with GPL ? I thought it was... Mark Jones and the other HUGS

We distribute LyX?

1999-01-22 Thread David Starner
would explicitly like to encourage people to distribute LyX in both source and binary forms. This permission certainly includes linking against GUI toolkits like XForms, Motif, GTK+, Qt or Win32. A copy of the GNU General Public License version 2 follows. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Repent

Re: We distribute LyX?

1999-01-22 Thread David Starner
Brian Ristuccia wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:42:00AM -0600, David Starner wrote: This permission certainly includes linking against GUI toolkits like XForms, Motif, GTK+, Qt or Win32. A copy of the GNU General Public License version 2 follows. It sounds like the author

Re: We distribute LyX?

1999-01-22 Thread David Starner
Navindra Umanee wrote: Montreal Fri Jan 22 13:45:25 1999 David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use LyX as my main word processor, and it's found in Contrib. Then why send this email? It is only likely to start a long flame war with the potential result of having LyX removed from

Re: We distribute LyX?

1999-01-22 Thread David Starner
Raul Miller wrote: David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I want is for Debian to hold to the principles it has set itself. I feel LyX has some of the same problems as KDE, and that if there was agreement on that, that the similar actions should be taken. I feel that Debian-legal

Re: We distribute LyX?

1999-01-23 Thread David Starner
Raul Miller wrote: David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because LyX is under the same License as KDE - straight GPL. I don't believe the quoted information from the webpage has any legal standing. If it does, then it should be in /usr/doc/lyx/copyright, and all /usr/doc/lyx/copyright

Re: lprng license

1999-01-29 Thread David Starner
to include it in a program without following the Artistic or GPL, then email him and he'll hook you up - probably for a hefty fee. Still, completely DFSG-free. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dullard: someone who, wanting a piece of information, takes down the appropriate volume

New LyX Clarification

1999-01-29 Thread David Starner
. If the mantainer's not around, maybe someone can do a NMU, as this is a Slink critical bug? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dullard: someone who, wanting a piece of information, takes down the appropriate volume of the encyclopedia, looks up the item they need, and then puts the volume away

Re: What exactly is Derivative ?

1999-03-23 Thread David Starner
includes the header files. Under normal operation, it then opens a pipe to send this to the compiler. -- David Starner - OSU student - [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want a real optimist, look up Ray Bradbury. Guy's nuts. He actually likes people. -David Brin

Re: Intent to package xmemos

1999-03-30 Thread David Starner
was changed, then Debian should be satisfied. Better yet, if there is only one author, change the license to LGPL or MPL or something else. -- David Starner - OSU student - [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want a real optimist, look up Ray Bradbury. Guy's nuts. He actually likes people. -David Brin

Re: Intent to package xmemos

1999-03-30 Thread David Starner
with permission to combine Lyx with other programs was enough.) It's not GPL'ed (While LyX has been released nominally under the GPL in the past, it has in fact never been truly GPL.), and the license resulting from the combination of the GPL and the clarification is clearly DFSG-free. -- David Starner

Re: MWPL - Metrowerkz Publick License

1999-03-30 Thread David Starner
release programs under this rather than GPL. The only unusual is that you must add a file named LEGAL containing any legal issues you know about and if you add any code that is covered by a patent you own. I can't see anyone thinking that's not free, but I'll mention it anyway. -- David Starner

Re: Intent to package xmemos

1999-03-31 Thread David Starner
Peter S Galbraith wrote: David Starner wrote: Peter S Galbraith wrote: Darren Benham wrote: The most recent version of Lyx had a license change (I am told) for the very same reason. No. The current version has had a _clarification_ added, but is still very much GPLed

Re: ITP: xslideshow

1999-06-01 Thread David Starner
At 03:39 PM 6/1/99 +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote: License: Xslideshow Copyright 1993-1997 by Susumu Shiohara All Rights Reserved -- from Copyright -- Permission to use, copy, modify,

Re: License for documentation

1999-07-08 Thread David Starner
(IMHO). You might want to check out the Open Content License (http://www.opencontent.org/openpub/) or look at what the FSF uses on their manuals (grab any GNU progam's texinfo file and take a look.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (alternately [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I would weep, but my tears have

Re: License for documentation

1999-07-08 Thread David Starner
At 06:46 AM 7/8/99 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might want to check out the Open Content License (http://www.opencontent.org/openpub/) That's only free as long as you don't check any of the options. That's arguable. Given that, we couldn't distribute

Re: new rdist license

1999-07-19 Thread David Starner
you the right of modification, or permit you to use it on a computer not your own. No question in my mind, it's not free. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (alternately [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I would weep, but my tears have been stolen; I would shout, but my voice has been taken. Thus, I write

Re: [Fwd: Intent to package: pm3]

1999-08-01 Thread David Starner
of endevor. Note that Berkeley has a program (or so I've heard) that still prohibits South African police from using it, because of their past history, and nobody has changed the license. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (alternately [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I would weep, but my tears have been stolen

Re: [Fwd: Intent to package: pm3]

1999-08-01 Thread David Starner
At 02:37 AM 8/1/99 -0400, Mike Goldman wrote: David Starner wrote: At 11:15 PM 7/31/99 -0400, Mike Goldman wrote: PM3: Polytechnique Montreal Modula-3 The only open question, which I have been discussing on debian-legal, is whether this package needs to go into non-free or whether it can go

Re: Fields of Endeavor (was Re: [Fwd: Intent to package: pm3])

1999-08-02 Thread David Starner
purposes, and a Jew adding restrictions to prohibt it being used for non-kosher purposes. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (alternately [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I would weep, but my tears have been stolen; I would shout, but my voice has been taken. Thus, I write. - Tragic Poet

Re: Artistic BSD+ad

1999-09-07 Thread David Starner
software project to use GPL code under a license more compatible with their project. David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ocaml license

1999-10-08 Thread David Starner
Debian demands for something in main. David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is the GPL free?

1999-10-22 Thread David Starner
# software. Debian has not required documentation and other text documents to allow modifiaction to be in main. David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is haskell-doc acceptable in main? (was: Re: Is the GPL free?)

1999-10-23 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 04:06:16PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 09:04:08PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 06:58:26PM -0500, David Starner wrote: Debian has not required documentation and other text documents to allow modifiaction to be in main

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-10-29 Thread David Starner
their mind.) But the frontend actually has to be linked to GCC. A more similar one is the M3 frontend, which evades the GPL restrictions by installing a new frontend (which is GPL), and using program calls to link to that program. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-10-29 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 07:45:43PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (This case seems similar to the one where Next wanted to ship GCC with their own Objective-C frontend, but not to release the frontend under the GPL. RMS had his laweyrs write

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-10-29 Thread David Starner
, Ian Jackson wrote: David Starner writes (Re: Corel's apt frontend): On Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 01:58:09PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: However, of course, lib-apt isn't the only thing that is bound together at run-time with Qt in this program. dpkg is too - the fact that the interface

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-10-30 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-10-31 Thread David Starner
or any GPL program on a proprietary X server. Those would be the same sort of aggretion as get_it calling dpkg. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Corel's apt frontend

1999-11-01 Thread David Starner
the system. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: LPRng in stable non-free or wrong man page?

1999-11-01 Thread David Starner
went that way, or no one cared enough to do anything about it. Oh, and this is going to legal, as that's the appropriate list. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Qhull's licence

1999-11-15 Thread David Starner
for Qhull, it is provided solely as is. Bug reports or fixes may be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; the authors may or may not act on them as they desire. It's mostly fairly standard keep our copyrights on the stuff, and don't mess with anything. I think it's DFSG-free. -- David Starner

Re: very short copyright; is this OK?

1999-12-08 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message property of the Secret Masters. Unauthorized duplication or reading will result in execution. Aren't you glad nothing happens without the authorization of the Secret Masters? pgp8YhZx8NDNV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Is new license of libjcode-perl DFSG-free?

1999-12-09 Thread David Starner
there may be a chance to change it. Besides the requirement that you demonstrate your modification, it's fine. I don't know what he was trying to say there, though. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message property of the Secret Masters. Unauthorized duplication or reading will result

Re: GCC M3 frontend

1999-12-20 Thread David Starner
take the frontend to that and try for a Modula-3 frontend to GCC.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Because of current mail difficulties, I'd appreciate it if you keep the cc's to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] on any replies. Thanks

Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-19 Thread David Starner
place, we're taking the safe route. No one can sue us for not having KDE in Debian. Debian doesn't ask lawyers because it can't afford to, money-wise. In most circumstances (fortune database aside), Debian just doesn't touch stuff with unclear (or inapprorpiate) licenses. -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: ITP: vice and vice-roms

2000-02-21 Thread David Starner
it is not a sufficent excuse. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about wrong parentheses with square brackets. But that's what mathematicians are. -- Dr. Burchard, math professor at OSU

Re: ITP: vice and vice-roms

2000-02-21 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 10:13:44PM -0600, Zed Pobre wrote: On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 09:36:05PM -0600, David Starner wrote: Moving to Debian-Legal... On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 08:11:49PM -0600, Zed Pobre wrote: I've been having a conversation with the upstream authors of VICE

Re: An advise how to apply for the TkMan author to change his license.

2000-02-28 Thread David Starner
to assume that he knows about free software and explain why it would be nice for it to be DFSG-free, instead of trying to evangalize the GPL. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about wrong parentheses with square brackets. But that's what mathematicians are. -- Dr. Burchard

Re: ATT source licence?

2000-03-04 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about wrong parentheses with square brackets. But that's what mathematicians are. -- Dr. Burchard, math professor at OSU

Re: ATT source code agreement

2000-03-22 Thread David Starner
of contract, negligence or other tortious action, arising out of or in connection with the use or performance of this software. I believe Lucent Technologies was part of ATT when SML/NJ was first released under this license. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about wrong

Re: Copyright problem with new maelstrom licence

2000-03-24 Thread David Starner
on the subject. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about wrong parentheses with square brackets. But that's what mathematicians are. -- Dr. Burchard, math professor at OSU

Re: Copyright problem with new maelstrom licence

2000-03-24 Thread David Starner
Hess? Sorry I can't remember who right now) who would argue that there is no distinction - that we shouldn't have the RFC's in Debian proper without the full right to modify and distribute as per the DFSG.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about wrong parentheses

Re: QPL and LGPL

2000-04-04 Thread David Starner
and he is going to add it, but he is also considering to use the LGPL instead of the GPL. The LGPL is incompatible with almost nothing, so long as the other license is compatible with it. No, you don't need to add the Qt notice if you want to link LGPL code against QT. -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: Mirror site (fwd)

2000-04-05 Thread David Starner
-free. Some (POV-Ray) have have funky restrictions on how you can sell it on CD. Non-free is full of funky licensed programs that can be mirrored by Debian but have weird restrictions, especially where money changes hands. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about wrong

Re: copyright in one sourcefile of dcd

2000-04-05 Thread David Starner
with code from schneier's book maybe someone else knows. I believe it's public domain, as the author says. There's no evidence to say that public domain isn't being used in the strict legal sense, which is clearly DFSG-Free. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about

Re: Ocaml status?

2000-04-06 Thread David Starner
-directories are distributed under the terms of the Q Public License version 1.0 (included below). -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about wrong parentheses with square brackets. But that's what mathematicians are. -- Dr. Burchard, math professor at OSU

Re: Ocaml status?

2000-04-06 Thread David Starner
to keep people from improving inferior technologies. (Sorry if that was a little opinionated - but the facts should be accurate.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only a nerd would worry about wrong parentheses with square brackets. But that's what mathematicians are. -- Dr. Burchard, math

Re: Is `ilisp' DFSG free?

2000-05-14 Thread David Starner
have permission to distribute. Is Debian not a distributor of Lisp compilers and interpreters? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The hell that is supposedly out there could be no worse than the hell that is sometimes seen in here.

Re: Open Source Motif

2000-05-16 Thread David Starner
will contribute the patches back under both licenses. It seems doubtful that even if QT was released QPL/GPL, that there would be any really major work done on a GPL-only version, even with the number of QT/TT haters out there. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The hell that is supposedly out

Re: When will KDE and Debian get together?

2000-05-25 Thread David Starner
to the one that comes in the box) includes a collection of TrueType fonts for which the license prohibits commercial distribution. I don't think what another distibution thinks it can get away with has anything to do with Debian should do. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp

Re: KDE libs

2000-06-02 Thread David Starner
packagers, because they should have first shot at this. Unless someone can come up with some practical reason (can kde-libs be built without kde-base?) or some legal reason why not, let's see the KDE libs in Debian. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu A dynamic

Re: new version of pilrc with strange license addition

2000-06-10 Thread David Starner
on the license before discussing it with the author, forward the whole thing to debian-legal, and I, at least, will dissect and discuss, if no one else will. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu A dynamic character with an ability to survive certain death

Re: reiserfs-utils_3.5.19-1_i386.changes REJECTED (fwd)

2000-06-16 Thread David Starner
with restrictions on associated licenses like this. Which clause does it violate? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu A dynamic character with an ability to survive certain death and a questionable death scene leaving no corpse? Face it, we'll never see her again. - Sluggy

Re: whether there is a patent on MP3 decoding [was Re: Bug#65794: freeamp must go to non-free]

2000-06-17 Thread David Starner
in, and a strong moral reason not to. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu A dynamic character with an ability to survive certain death and a questionable death scene leaving no corpse? Face it, we'll never see her again. - Sluggy Freelance

Re: [Talin@ACM.org: Suggestions for wording...?]

2000-06-18 Thread David Starner
. GNAT's run time libraries are all GPL + you can do anything with them in binary form. Guile has a license like that, too. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu A dynamic character with an ability to survive certain death and a questionable death scene leaving

Re: New Apache license compatible with GPL? (Was: [Talin@ACM.org: Suggestions for wording...?])

2000-06-18 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 10:17:24PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: Is the new Apache License really GPL compatible? Not according to the FSF. Cf. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu A dynamic character

Re: DFSG Licences

2000-07-04 Thread David Starner
and it has the licenses linked to most of them. Some of the developers are less careful than others, so just because a license is in main doesn't guarentee that general consensus would say it is acceptable. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu A dynamic character

Re: Are GPLed .gifs legal at all ???

2000-07-12 Thread David Starner
the gif. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, Rock and Roll Children

Re: Are GPLed .gifs legal at all ???

2000-07-12 Thread David Starner
compiler, like early versions of emacs. It's obvious that RMS disagreed, as he distributed early versions of emacs. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night

Re: ITP: galeon

2000-07-17 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 12:26:44AM -0400, Fabien Ninoles wrote: I think Gecko is under the MPL, not NPL. I'm not sure however if MPL is compatible or not with the GPL (the NPL is certainly not) but it has much more chance... For It's not. Cf. the licenses page at www.gnu.org. -- David

Re: Design Science License DFSG compatibility

2000-07-28 Thread David Starner
security problem is discovered with the package. Do what several maintainers have already done - release under a modified name. (See nowebm, for example.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever

Re: abcde could move to main if vorbize support added

2000-08-20 Thread David Starner
on unpackagable mp3 encoders. Except for the patent problem, they are completely free. It's sort of a weird way to put abcde in main, considering that very few people would actually use it with vorbize. But yes, this would put it in main. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp

Re: Chemical modelling software

2000-08-22 Thread David Starner
the largest public domain program I've ever seen.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.net.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, Rock and Roll Children

Re: wxWindows licence

2000-08-22 Thread David Starner
, the issue seems to be that you only included the summary in .../doc/wx*/copyright and put the license in .../doc/wx*/license.txt. less /usr/share/doc/*/copyright has the actual license in the copyright file whenever it's not LGPL or GPL. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp

Re: wxWindows licence

2000-08-22 Thread David Starner
- GPL'ed Delphi code can (and I believe does) exist and is not unfree because it needs Delphi to build. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.net.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye

Re: Free Pine?

2000-08-29 Thread David Starner
Foundation, Inc. Whoa! Isn't this the program that RMS said the University of Washington threatened to sue them over? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.net.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night

Re: Documentation

2000-08-30 Thread David Starner
wrt. copyright law, aside from implict permission to download. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.net.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, Rock and Roll Children

Re: [nl223@cus.cam.ac.uk: copyright breakage]

2000-08-31 Thread David Starner
for them to shape up. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.net.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, Rock and Roll Children

Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread David Starner
.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.net.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, Rock and Roll Children

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-03 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 01:06:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Please! I've been getting 3 copies of this conversation about this stupid argument. Can we cut CC's to debian-legal and other essentials, please? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.net.dhis.org It was starting

Re: FWD: Analog licence violates DFSG

2000-09-13 Thread David Starner
such action is the sole responsibility of the person committing the action. This provision of the licence blatently violates section 6 of the DFSG which states: We've had arguments over export regulations, and the general consensus is that they aren't DFSG free, so this isn't either. -- David

Re: FWD: Analog licence violates DFSG

2000-09-13 Thread David Starner
international laws (technically, the Constitution never gave the UN any law making power, so as long as the U.S. is a soverign nation, internation law is only binding so long as it's enforced by a corresponding local law.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling

Re: FWD: Analog licence violates DFSG

2000-09-13 Thread David Starner
the license? I think pretty much all the arguments in this thread for the clause would also apply to such a clause. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning

Re: FWD: Analog licence violates DFSG

2000-09-13 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 12:07:22PM -0700, Brian Behlendorf wrote: On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, David Starner wrote: The DFSG is designed to be an objective standard. Not really, it's way too broad for that. If it were completely objective there'd be no debate about whether a given license

Re: Irony of RSA Encryption

2000-09-15 Thread David Starner
. RSA didn't put any code into the public domain, they merely made the (almost meaningless) gesture of putting a patent in the public domain - two weeks before it would have been there anyway. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some

Re: Irony of RSA Encryption

2000-09-16 Thread David Starner
in the public domain for the last decade. The RSA people didn't release any software to the public domain, so that's irrelevant. Your example is totatlly bogus. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost

Re: IBM Public License 1.0 - ICU

2000-09-21 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Yves Arrouye wrote: Also, if that license is OK, should I package it with ICU, or should I try to get it included in base-files? Why would you include it in base-files? It's not exactly a common license. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp

Re: IBM Public License 1.0 - ICU

2000-09-21 Thread David Starner
. If I remember from the last time I poked through base, counting licenses and GNU stuff, there were several programs that had their own special license just there. So if it's not common, it should go into /usr/share/docs/mypackage, right? Not in /usr/share/common-licenses. Yep. -- David

Re: Open Compatibility License (was: Re: 2 questions about leocad)

2000-09-23 Thread David Starner
. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS

Re: Open Compatibility License (was: Re: 2 questions about leocad)

2000-09-24 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 10:00:56AM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote: On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 11:44:06PM -0500, David Starner wrote: Again, any thoughts on the Open Compatibility License (other than the fact that it has the same abbrev. as the Open Content License)? It's ugly, but I think it's

Re: Source code with no (explicit) licence

2000-10-16 Thread David Starner
, proprietary code. s/strictly speaking//g; s/one might argue that//g; There's no legal question here, no arguments; that's what the law says. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org If you wish to strive for peace of soul then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth

Re: Source code with no (explicit) licence

2000-10-16 Thread David Starner
to modify or compile a copy of a copyright work you have a legal copy of. I don't see how you could create an implicit license to redistribute, so no there. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org If you wish to strive for peace of soul then believe; if you wish to be a devotee

Re: rus-ispell license

2000-10-29 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 10:17:31PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 03:45:15PM -0500, David Starner wrote: Permission to use, copy, redistribute is granted. Permission to redistribute modifications in patch form is granted. Permission to redistribute binaries made

Re: non-US bugreports

2000-11-10 Thread David Starner
distribute cyrpto programs now, if someone was willing to register ftp.debian.org with the US. The Mozilla people have done it and have some notes about it. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org As centuries of pulp novels and late-night Christian broadcasting have taught us

Re: OPL

2000-11-16 Thread David Starner
at no charge to all third ^ Doesn't this prohibit commercial distribution? Nope. You can't charge for the license, but you can charge for a copy. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org As centuries of pulp novels and late

Re: Licensing woes

2000-12-06 Thread David Starner
: program support). Violates DFSG #5 (Fields of Endeavor: commerical purposes). You might want to point out how vague commerical purposes is. If it can't be used in a buisness, then that's a big issue. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org (You see, the best way to solve

Re: DDP's document licenses

2000-12-07 Thread David Starner
text). Also as a pragmatic issue, we need the rights to redistrubite at no cost, on any media and sell the document on CD's. If some one needs free document licenses, why don't we just point them to GNU? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org (You see, the best way to solve

Re: DDP's document licenses

2000-12-08 Thread David Starner
, particularly suited or not. If you don't like the license, then ask the author to change it. No need for formality. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS

Re: software under QPL 1.0

2000-12-09 Thread David Starner
fine. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dvdeug.dhis.org And crawling, on the planet's face, some insects called the human race. Lost in space, lost in time, and meaning. -- RHPS pgp1IJv7k3Utf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-25 Thread David Starner
them to be distributed under the same terms as the license implies being able to restrict people from distributing them under different terms; the patch clause (#4)) are specified in the DFSG. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recovering from a hard drive crash - website down

Re: New licence for cryto++ code-base

2001-01-28 Thread David Starner
notice. This is the only thing that's unusual, and I don't see why it would be non-DFSG-free. (It might be unenforcable, but that's his problem.) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org

Re: is the license of gsview okay?

2001-01-30 Thread David Starner
to be bound by all of its terms and conditions. This is the only part that seems non-free. If I read this right, it's a restriction on distribution Debian can't satisfy even in non-free; we would have to make sure anyone we distributed to agreed before we gave them a copy. -- David Starner - [EMAIL

Re: Bug#85072: freeamp: contains non-free arial.ttf

2001-02-06 Thread David Starner
a freeamp.rpm including arial.ttf, and - contrary to Debian - they are for-profit. (3) is the only sane solution, and it needs to be done ASAP. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me

Re: ITP: Arazilla

2001-02-17 Thread David Starner
are also non-free, but passable, though the license is absurd (there's no reverse-engineering needed, for crying out loud!) -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd

Re: libcompface's license

2001-02-18 Thread David Starner
the no monies part mean you can't charge money for the act of distributing libcompface? It seems obvious to me. Is there some reason you have for reading it another way? -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name

Re: MasterMind(r)

2001-02-19 Thread David Starner
writing can be copyrighted, but the rules themselves can't be.) Note that Debian has (at least) two games with the same rules as Othello, named GNOME Iagno and Kreversi. Follow that example and you should be all right. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I

Re: libcompface license (again)

2001-02-22 Thread David Starner
. Do you need more from me than just this email? I don't think so, but I'd better let ouer legal people decide that. Thanx! That's all we need. Thanks! -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my

Re: [Steve Lidie Stephen.O.Lidie@Lehigh.EDU] Re: xodometer licensing

2001-02-26 Thread David Starner
-free is moot. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored. - Joseph_Greg pgpj3bNboFX3W.pgp Description: PGP signature

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