that originally
started this thread.]
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 11:57:13PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007, Anthony Towns wrote:
The DFSG refers to copyright licensing, it doesn't cover patents or
trademarks.
It actually doesn't refer to any of them specifically
:
Do you want copyleft?
Yes: GPL (Maybe LGPL in some cases)
No: MIT/Expat
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it's not clear that there is enough expressive content to actually be
copyrightable...]
Please, don't cc me in any of this, I expect to find the resolution
when the bug report's updated.
Sorry; you bring the issue up, you get to be involved.
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to anyone?
With the difference that the programmer needs what he's programming
to *work* according to a suite of specs.
Specifications are not an intrinsic part of programming any more than
they are in painting. I suggest reading _The Tao of Programming_.
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doctrine, then the alternative is to use
whatever standard game only redistribution license Teosto uses (or
will write) and then distribute them in non-free with game itself in
contrib or main, depending on whether it depends upon the songs or has
enough songs included to work without them.
Don
OF CONTRACT,
TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE WORK
OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE WORK.
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1: If you're feeling generous enough to call them that...
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users to do what they need
to do. If the copyright holder is withholding information that could
be theoretically distributed by us which is necessary to modify the
work, then we are not able to execute the tenets of our social
contract.
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useless,
nor does it bode well for writing Free Software licenses in general.
If there are specific issues with the GPL, or the need for a general
overview, contact competent legal representation and have them explain
the license to you.
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote:
Don Armstrong wrote:
You propose to create another copyleft license which is
incompatible with many other widely use copyleft licenses.
Could you please explain how it is incompatible with popular
copyleft licenses?
Most copyleft licenses
Binaries are not MPL and no redistribution of
binaries is allowable under any circumstances.
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have yet to see people asserting
patents which cover mp2.
Feel free to provide specific evidence to contradict me, however.
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not disambiguate
between license texts in their capacity as a license under which a
work is distribute and random text which is labelled as a license.
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distributed. [IE, in debian/copyright or specifically included by
reference from there.]
For example, a second copy of the GPL in a package under the GPL would
not be acceptable, nor would a copy of the GPL in a package not under
the GPL.
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, Ben Finney wrote:
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
How about: There is a special exception for the texts of the
licenses under which works in Debian are distributed;
It's not just enough for that; it has
the bug report myself, but I have made the severity
non-RC. Dima: that's your call; you can wait for more -legal
contributors to weigh in, or you can close the report.
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currently
in Debian. [Iron (well, ferrum) would also work for the same reason,
but that may be confusingly similar.]
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address the issue.
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On Mon, 14 May 2007, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 5/14/07, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Considering the fact that the actual symbol is a white wheelchair on a
blue background, it's not clear that a black font would be a
^
derivative work
wheelchair
symbol to make it free?
The question is whether or not that has been done. In order to talk
about that intelligently, we have to look at specific instances of the
symbol's use in a specific font within a specific package and the
process that resulted in creating the glyph.
Don
this make the package incompatible to DFSG?
Yes, it does. Both of these requirements are nonfree, and quite
frankly, unreasonable.
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clears it up anyway.]
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is not of the majority and did not
understand what she was doing and decides to sue Debian or our users
because the license was invalid. Since we're just as vulernable to
cases where the copyright holder is untruthfully specified, I don't
think it's necessary to go overboard with proof.
Don Armstrong
laws and regulation of any other countries) when You use,
distribute or otherwise make available any Covered Software.
It's not appropriate for a Free Software license to require users of
software to give up rights that they would normaly have in their own
jurisdiction.
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1: http
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On May 24, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is not the case, unfortunatly, and it really would be wise in the
future to consult with people who are familiar with the arguments
surrounding such licenses before expressing Debian's opinion
that that (or relicensing of works
under GPLv2/3) was in progress a year ago.
In any event, this has been rather laboriously discussed previously in
threads about the CDDL[2,3,4], so I'll stop here.
Don Armstrong
1: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/12/msg2.html
2: http
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Don Armstrong wrote:
That said, the typical argument is that giving up your right to have
cases tried in your local venue is a fee or royalty, and as such
violates DFSG ?1.
Just to underline this some more in case it's still not clear why this
is a fee, or even why
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Francesco Poli wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 02:43:41 -0700 Don Armstrong wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
Whatever the its origin is[1], the term proprietary is now a
well-established[2] word used as opposed to free (as in freedom
On Mon, 28 May 2007, Francesco Poli wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:24:21 -0700 Don Armstrong wrote:
Of course, but the usage of free there is merely an extension of
its actual english meaning.
A piece of free software is not able to act at will, nor is it
exempt from subjection
the terms interchangeably.
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you have to keep around the source code for three years; by including
it with the computer, you can ship it and forget it. [This is one
reason why Debian has the source code for all of main on the same
servers that the binary packages are served from.]
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote:
debian-devel re-added.
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 03:40:36PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 21:50:15 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote:
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 10:54:36AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
and to the best of my knowledge, works
reopen 350624
thanks
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007, Don Armstrong wrote:
That said, can the ftpmaster who approved the inclusion of star in
main speak up and give their rationale?
Actually, I must take this back; it's almost certain that ftpmaster
did not approve this, because the work when originally
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 12:12:14PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007, Don Armstrong wrote:
That said, can the ftpmaster who approved the inclusion of star in
main speak up and give their rationale?
Actually, I must take
.
Suggest that the authors reimplement the hash function or use a
pre-existing free alternative.
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that, I can only educate
users and not install those packages myself, hoping that unsuspecting
users do not get caught out by upstreams which have decided to become
litigious.[2]
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1: I have no idea of the odds of such things happening, though. It
definetly varies from district
:
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:29:08PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
Choice of venue clauses can short circuit the normal determination of
jurisdiction in civil cases in some jurisdictions in some cases.
Contracts and licenses in general short-circuit the normal
determination of rights under common
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 12:28:04AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
If the author of Star decides that the Debian maintainer has
incorrectly removed a copyright notice,[1] he could terminate the
license under 6.1,
[...]
Should someone be willing
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote:
Debian does accept the CDDL as a free license (at least when the
choice of venue is Berlin).
Indeed; I wasn't aware of the CDDL ever being accepted in main; had I
paid more attention to it, I would have
including the text of
the GFDL and any invariant sections from the manual.
This in itself is why we do not have GFDLed manpages.
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,
actually. They're fairly close, after all.
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[Who has no idea if these sorts of clauses even work in Germany or
Belgium]
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso wrote:
On 03/06/07, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007, Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso wrote:
I have yet to see a practical example of a situation that actually
happened that justifies Debian's concerns against the GFDL
the parties to a contract are free to
designate a court to rule on any disputes even though that court
might not have had jurisdiction on the basis of the factors
objectively connecting the contract with a particular place.
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Arnoud Engelfriet wrote:
Don Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Arnoud Engelfriet wrote:
If I'm in the Netherlands and distribute
CDDL software to a Belgian citizen while violating the CDDL, the
copyright holder has to come to the Netherlands, choice-of-venue
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso wrote:
On 03/06/07, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the maintainer (and the developers) recognized that users may need
or want such documentation, even though it does not meet the DFSG,
so the documentation was made available in non-free
this clause to be in the position of resolving abiguities of
jurisdiction, or a defensive only jurisidiction clause. Either would
resolve my personal problems with the CDDL, and I believe would solve
the problems most -legal contributors have with the license.
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to include them
all and that people should look at the source to see.
[The main reason why people should go through all of the contributors
is so that they check that files under incorrect licences haven't
suddenly snuck in.]
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There are a couple of these installations which are actually rather
amusing, as they show the GPL, and tell you that you can accept it or
not at your option, explaining that running the program is free
regardless.
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the
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subject?
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
Sklyarov did what he did AT HOME IN RUSSIA. It was the company he worked
for that marketed it in America.
And Sklyarov who
, either version 2 of the License, or (at your
option) any later version.
would do the trick.
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of this for us;
Dave Coffin would still be free to offer it under additional terms if
he so desired.
If you need help drafting the message, let me know.
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http
, along with
that message's 'date', 'from', 'message-id' fields.
Yeah; bonus points if the message is GPG signed by a key which is in
and multiply connected to strongly connected set.
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Don Armstrong:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007, Ben Finney wrote:
An email has been judged sufficient for many Debian packages, if it
unambiguously specifies all of the above, and is clearly from the
copyright holder. Copy and paste into the 'debian
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Don Armstrong:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Don Armstrong:
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007, Ben Finney wrote:
An email has been judged sufficient for many Debian packages, if it
unambiguously specifies all of the above, and is clearly
this software. TBH I don't really understand
how to interpret this sentence.
Really depends on what the license agreement says; if we're lucky, it
allows us to use it and makes the patent not particularly usefull.
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be
distributed from main? [It'd give us a starting point to figure out
the right questions to ask a lawyer.]
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-functional uses of the trademark.
Finally, the precise place where trademark rights stop is necessarily
a legal question; the place where we decide to compromise, a community
one.
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007, Jari Aalto wrote:
Should the WWW pages be relicensed using DFSG compatible licence?
Yes, this has been discussed, and is most likely going to happen.
However, it requires getting all contributors to agree, which will
require a heroic effort.
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What else is sheet music but a storage form of notes, timings and
durations?
I agrue that sheet music differs
is taken as an interim measure until it can be rectified.
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actually know what terms we are able
to distribute the final work. A component of a work which is
unlicenced makes the entire work undistributable.
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an informed decision as to whether to
include it in the archive or use it themselves.
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seem to be a reason to
impose any additional restrictions beyond what the GPL imposes.
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Francesco Poli wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:07:18 -0700 Don Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
What I meant is that while GPL uses copyright to give people rights,
it does not restrict people beyond what copyright already imposes.
It's
the Corresponding Source, which
includes these components, which means that you may be exporting or
facilitating the exportation of cryptographic software.
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, but there are still issues, some of which we may end up
deciding we need to live with in order to obtain that class of
protection.]
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1: It basically mandates the usage of snapshot.debian.net to provide
links to the corresponding source of the version which is actually
being used. I've no doubt
. In this case, assuming that the license will
remain intact is the conservative position.
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1: Though obviously we should as good members of the FOSS community.
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
2008/9/3 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The GPL allows us to provide equivalent access to the source as we
do to the binaries,
And doesn't the AGPL too? Both the program and the source over the
network?
No, it requires distribution
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
2008/9/3 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
The AGPL requires access to source to occur at the time of use,
which is more difficult.
Why? You just have to put a link somewhere source
, but the second time can
be fatal.
So yes, the lawyers can come out and play immediately if they wish.
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satisfy the AGPL. We may have to go there
eventually, but without resolving the first questions, going there is
premature.
Please, help us all by working to address the first to questions in
the framework of the DFSG.
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who could
actually litigate it would almost certainly buckle under community
pressure, and people who don't have the money to would likely settle
for releasing the source.]
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Ben Finney wrote:
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[Defining terms in the license grant] is a bad idea.
I should note that this is not just defining terms in the license
grant; it's either a null operation, or it adds a class things to
object code which
of that said and done, if the copyright holder actually means for
the work to be DFSG free, using a license that is trivially understood
to be DFSG free is ideal.
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Ben Finney wrote:
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The key words here are what totally free means, and what use
means. If totally free means you have the freedom to do anything
you wish with these works then that's a different meaning entirely
than you don't
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, Sean Kellogg wrote:
On Saturday 27 September 2008 05:54:02 pm Don Armstrong wrote:
The problem is that we're working off of a translation without any
information as to what the underlying words that were translated
actually mean. There's not a one-to-one mapping between
.
I'd try asking again, since it's definetly not because of the 1,2,4
clause BSD license you've shown below.
[Though it may be from some fragment of code that isn't actually under
this license; you need to check the source code yourself to see if
that's the case.]
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Måns Rullgård wrote:
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Måns Rullgård wrote:
More precisely, Debian has the right to distribute such a work, but
chooses not to do so.
If a work is GPLed and we do not have the complete source for the
work
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Måns Rullgård wrote:
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org writes:
If we don't have the corresponding source, we can't satisfy the
GPL, so we cannot distribute (GPLv2 §4, GPLv3 §8).
Your argument, if it can be called that, assumes that the
requirements of the GPL, or any
to
figure out whether that's the case in a specific instance.]
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think RMS is a bit on my side - after all he did write the
LGPL...
For libraries so that they would be widely used, not for general
copyleft usage.
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hundred grand. I'm not a greedy person. [All for a moldy bottle of
tropicana.]
-- Sammi Hadzovic [in Andy Newman's 2003/02/14 NYT article.]
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/14
clause by distributing a derived
version. I'm slightly concerned about this layout hanging around and
then a small company who uses it because it was distributed in Debian
being sued.
Don Armstrong
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The sheer ponderousness of the panel's opinion [...] refutes its
thesis far more convincingly than
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 11:18 -0700, Don Armstrong a écrit :
Is there any hope of getting Leboutte to license this under CC without
the NC and ND clauses or retract his claims?
I don’t think so, but maybe an open source evangelist would have
to do with whether we distribute
them in main or people decide to build on them.
Don Armstrong
1: I honestly don't even know *which* specific patents we're talking
about here; it's all awash in FUD.
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Quite the contrary; they *love* collateral damage. If they can make
you miserable enough
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