Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-06 Thread Terry Hancock
MJ Ray wrote: Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, what I *said* is that tools are not materials, which they are not -- at least not unless you use them as such. If you build a house out of hammers, *then* the hammers are materials, otherwise, they are tools. So, to be clear: you would

Re: The GPL and soundfonts

2007-06-05 Thread Terry Hancock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:51:11AM -0700, Walter Landry wrote: Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the soundfont license needs to be very permissive, but I don't think there should be any concern about the tool used to create it. The license of the sequencing

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-05 Thread Terry Hancock
a copyleft requirement? This is effectively how the GPL works -- denying distribution rights if the work is combined with proprietary work. The wording could stand to be improved, though. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread Terry Hancock
be taken with a very big chunk of salt. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-05 Thread Terry Hancock
it is usable like it is, even if no such changes can be made. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-05 Thread Terry Hancock
MJ Ray wrote: Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, in your opinion, houses are not made using tools and binary packages are not made using compilers? No, what I *said* is that tools are not materials, which they are not -- at least not unless you use them as such. If you build a house out

Re: The GPL and soundfonts

2007-06-02 Thread Terry Hancock
license needs to be very permissive, but I don't think there should be any concern about the tool used to create it. Of course, the sourcecode requirement would probably insist that both the MIDI and the soundfonts are provided as source for the WAV. HTH, IANAL, TINLA, etc. Cheers, Terry -- Terry

Re: CC Sampling Plus 1.0

2007-05-22 Thread Terry Hancock
(much more so than allowed by fair use). So, in some ways, it may be that the Sampling licenses are actually more friendly to the free commons than is the NC or NC-SA license -- in that you can actually extract something usable in free works from them. Am I right? Cheers, Terry -- Terry

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-29 Thread Terry Hancock
it unethical, IMHO. As it is, though, it stinks to high heaven -- it's one of the political doublespeak moves where you create an organization ostensibly to protect small interests, but the actual effect is calculated to bury them. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks

Re: Debian-approved creative/content license?

2007-03-29 Thread Terry Hancock
, the needs of licenses for aesthetic works are necessarily different than those for utilitarian works. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: creative commons

2007-01-11 Thread Terry Hancock
Francesco Poli wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:08:48 -0600 Terry Hancock wrote: Is this a good reason to avoid promoting such freedoms among creators? That's a strawman argument: CC promotes By and By-SA licenses as well as NC, ND and others. If there's a fault it's that they don't offer strong

Re: creative commons

2007-01-10 Thread Terry Hancock
to write yet another re-hash of this argument. There's plenty of it on this list and the cc-licenses list. It's all been said already, so go check the archives. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: creative commons

2007-01-10 Thread Terry Hancock
like CC licenses' prohibition of TPM distribution. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Acknowledgment clause in GPL code?

2007-01-05 Thread Terry Hancock
that it would be better to add the version number to the license reference and that the word ORIGINAL should probably be inserted before the word AUTHOR. But that's like correcting spelling and grammar: it might be useful, but did you *really* not understand what was being said? Cheers, Terry -- Terry

Re: Python Software Foundation trademark policy

2007-01-05 Thread Terry Hancock
, however. Note that this is a FAQ you're reading, rather than a legal document. FAQs usually don't get the fine-tooth-comb legal treatment that licenses do! Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-11 Thread Terry Hancock
, in essentially the same way as software which bundles or embeds the font. I don't really see how that could be clearer. ISTM, the document exemption *closes* a loophole, rather than opening one, ensuring user freedoms that might not otherwise be covered. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-09 Thread Terry Hancock
). It's definitely a restriction over and above trademark law. (I don't think it makes the license non-free, though.) So, in fact, it is NOT a restriction over and above trademark law. Of course, IANAL, but I'm pretty darned certain of this. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-07 Thread Terry Hancock
it explicit. Sorry if I'm being obtuse. I just don't see what the problem would be. Of course, I am not a lawyer. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-07 Thread Terry Hancock
decision), the problem can be avoided. Then, of course, the document *is* the source code, not merely a combination of the source code with formatting. Even in this case, though, the font expressly says it can't affect the license of the program (because it's the document). Cheers, Terry -- Terry

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-06 Thread Terry Hancock
embed the font in documents that use it. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ttf-tuffy: The Tuffy Font Family

2006-12-04 Thread Terry Hancock
file? Absolutely, this is consistent with past practice. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-04 Thread Terry Hancock
Francesco Poli wrote: On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:12:05 -0600 Terry Hancock wrote: Yes, it seems the question here is *whose* preferred form for modifications? The GPL appears to assume there is a general consensus on this, and there may not be. IMO, whenever there's any doubt about which

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-02 Thread Terry Hancock
out a lot of people who don't know how (or simply don't want ) to use them. After all, it's still a lot harder to make certain kinds of art in a vector editor. Cheers, Terry (Not a debian developer or a lawyer. Just a user). -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-16 Thread Terry Hancock
to preserve copyleft, and Debian really needs to recognize that in order to remain the flagship free software distribution that it is. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-16 Thread Terry Hancock
. IMHO, this makes it harder to read, but I trust you are prepared to make the extra effort. On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Terry Hancock wrote: Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Terry Hancock wrote: Prohibiting TPM *distribution* is fine under DFSG. No, it's not. Prohibiting TPM distribution

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-16 Thread Terry Hancock
argument for accepting the CCPL3 as-is. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-11 Thread Terry Hancock
Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Terry Hancock wrote: Prohibiting TPM *distribution* is fine under DFSG. No, it's not. Prohibiting TPM distribution is quite clearly a restriction on a field of endeavor. Since distribution is always a use, then *any* distribution requirement

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-11 Thread Terry Hancock
: it ensures the ability of the end user to apply TPM through the simple expedient of making that the way to access CC material on a TPM platform. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-10 Thread Terry Hancock
Francesco Poli wrote: On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:45:46 -0500 Terry Hancock wrote: So, are you asserting that if the CCPL3.0 included an allowance to distribute TPM'd files, so long as the key necessary to apply TPM to modified works based on the non-TPM'd version were publically available

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-10 Thread Terry Hancock
MJ Ray wrote: Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The case has been made that CCPL3.0 is DFSG-non-free because it does not allow the distribution of content in TPM'd format[0]. I assert that not only is this argument false, it is actually reversed: allowing TPM distribution, even

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-08 Thread Terry Hancock
requirements, you just can't distribute it. -- Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

License for Standards Spec?

2003-03-19 Thread Terry Hancock
for software. Is this an example of documentation needing a different standard? Or is there a way around the official version problem that makes sense? Thanks for any comments, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com

Re: QPL clause 3 is not DFSG-free

2003-03-15 Thread Terry Hancock
content. So long as I don't make copies for sale or free distribution, I'm completely within fair use. Presumeably the same applies to programs. /nitpick -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com

Re: The Show So Far

2003-03-13 Thread Terry Hancock
interoperability. I know that won't work as a general solution, though. Hmm. Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com

Re: The Show So Far

2003-03-13 Thread Terry Hancock
On Thursday 13 March 2003 03:45 pm, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday 12 March 2003 04:34 pm, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Right, so here's what I'll do. I'll create a non-free derivative of [...] I know you meant this as a code hijacking

Re: Barriers to an ASP loophole closure

2003-03-13 Thread Terry Hancock
, it's being distributed. If it's a program it's being performed publically. Either way it might fall under copyright terms. Hmm. Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-12 Thread Terry Hancock
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 04:56 pm, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:46:05PM -0800, Terry Hancock wrote: They could, of course, sell the software to someone else, but the usual caveats about selling free software (i.e. you can be easily undersold) apply. That might

Re: The Show So Far

2003-03-12 Thread Terry Hancock
it on the CD with the data / web application. So I would hate to see such an interpretation take hold. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com

Re: The Show So Far

2003-03-12 Thread Terry Hancock
. Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com

Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-11 Thread Terry Hancock
to load on Red Hat and Solaris, etc.). If no such standard boilerplate license exists -- would it be reasonable to propose publishing one with instructions, along the same lines as the FSF has done with the GPL? Thanks, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks

Re: Do we have trademark infringements by fonts?

2003-02-18 Thread Terry Hancock
font substitution rules). This is just my impression of what's been done before by companies who were faced with this issue (I'm pretty sure I've seen other examples of this, but I know Corel did it). Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http

Re: license =? copyright

2003-02-04 Thread Terry Hancock
-- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com Some things are too important to be taken seriously

Re: academic software without licence

2003-02-03 Thread Terry Hancock
On Monday 03 February 2003 08:31 pm, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 20:13, Terry Hancock wrote: But available to everyone, with no restrictions does give you distribute and modify, since non-modification is clearly a restriction. available gives you the right to have

Re: What new name means?

2003-01-30 Thread Terry Hancock
would not be allowed. -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com Some things are too important to be taken seriously

Re: CLUEBAT: copyrights, infringement, violations, and legality

2003-01-29 Thread Terry Hancock
? Or did I miss something so that the cluebat needs to be used on me? :-D Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com

Re: CLUEBAT: copyrights, infringement, violations, and legality

2003-01-29 Thread Terry Hancock
without permission, you are violating it. In the former case, we discuss it quietly in civil court, in the latter, I go for my shotgun. ;-D -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com Some things are too important to be taken seriously

Re: Bug#176267: ITP: mplayer -- Mplayer is a full-featured audioand video player for UN*X like systems

2003-01-29 Thread Terry Hancock
. It may serve to prop up existing institutions, but it does not serve the society, IMHO. But then, I also believe I will have a very hard time convincing enough people of this to get the USPO abolished. So we're just doing brinksmanship here, AFAICT. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock

Re: [Discussioni] OSD DFSG convergence

2003-01-28 Thread Terry Hancock
, of course, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com Some things are too important to be taken seriously

EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Terry Hancock
the law? (entirely possible). Would really love to hear a more clue-ful opinion. :-D Thanks, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com Some things are too important to be taken seriously

Re: Hardware license (status)

2002-12-05 Thread Terry Hancock
its terms can't be applied to hardware without significant amounts of interpretation). As with the LGPL, the OHGPL is clarifying an edge case, is slightly more permissive than the GPL, and ought to be convertable to GPL. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi

Re: Documentation licenses (GFDL discussion on debian-legal)

2002-12-05 Thread Terry Hancock
-- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com Python takes the pain out of programming ... ... and Zope puts it back again.

Re: Hardware license

2002-12-03 Thread Terry Hancock
On Monday 02 December 2002 12:04 pm, Walter Landry wrote: Rich Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The LART license is probably required reading on this subject ;-) http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/LICENSE This is pretty much the same as the BSD license

Re: Suse Products legal?

2002-12-01 Thread Terry Hancock
for some people, it might be worth it. You can, of course, copy the GPL'd stuff on the disk as much as you like -- there may be proprietary stuff on it too, though -- you'd have to read the license they give you for the distribution. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock

Re: Hardware license

2002-11-27 Thread Terry Hancock
information about an apparently successful open hardware project. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com

Re: question about leaving lzw and unknown-license code in source

2002-11-12 Thread Terry Hancock
to use some GIFs to keep them happy (I'm not really going into production mode until June anyway, probably). Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com