Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-12 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 11:24:29PM +0200, Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Lucas Nussbaum: IANAL, but the license[4] look quite ok for me, even if the part about GPL compatibility seems a bit unclear. It looks like a fallback close similar to the LGPL.

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-12 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-07-11 15:54:05 +0100 Francesco Poli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks like a weak definition of source code: what is *required* so as to modify a program written in C? I agree, this looks like a lawyerbomb. Moreover, I think it should say explicitly the GNU General Public

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-11 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 16:19:57 -0700 Josh Triplett wrote: Lucas Nussbaum wrote: [...] Alex Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was able to find the english version of the license. It's here : http://www.inria.fr/valorisation/logiciels/Licence.CeCILL-V1.US.pdf For ease of quoting and commentary,

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-07 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 08:36:10PM -0700, Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The license also contains many clauses that suggest a belief that the license controls _use_ of the software, which has no backing in (US, at least) copyright law. While these clauses do not seem to be non-free,

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: One of the goals was to create a license which is compatible with french law. (It isn't clear whether the GPL is.) Presumably you're obliquely invoking droit d'auteur as the reason for incompatibility; ideally the vagaries of one locality's legal

CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, The CEA[1], the CNRS[2] and the INRIA[3] have released a GPL-compatible free software license. It seems to me that it is an very important move : the CNRS and the INRIA are the two research institutes doing research in computing. I know INRIA has distributed ocaml, mldonkey(!), and scilab,

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-06 Thread Florian Weimer
* Lucas Nussbaum: IANAL, but the license[4] look quite ok for me, even if the part about GPL compatibility seems a bit unclear. It looks like a fallback close similar to the LGPL. My french is rusty, though, I shouldn't try to interpret contracts. 8-

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 11:24:29PM +0200, Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Lucas Nussbaum: IANAL, but the license[4] look quite ok for me, even if the part about GPL compatibility seems a bit unclear. It looks like a fallback close similar to the LGPL. My french is rusty,

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-06 Thread Josh Triplett
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 11:24:29PM +0200, Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Lucas Nussbaum: IANAL, but the license[4] look quite ok for me, even if the part about GPL compatibility seems a bit unclear. It looks like a fallback close similar to the LGPL. My

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-06 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-07-07 00:19:57 +0100 Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: FREE SOFTWARE LICENSING AGREEMENT CeCILL First off, I was told again today that French has no direct equivalent word for software. Logiciel only means program. I've no idea what other words don't translate. Basically:

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-06 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 02:22:51AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Here we go again. Are these you will use *my* court terms acceptable or not? :-/ It also has a bogus breathing, eating or talking means you agree to this clause, and it's annoyingly long for a free license. If there aren't any problems

Re: CeCILL license : Free Software License for french research

2004-07-06 Thread Josh Triplett
Glenn Maynard wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 02:22:51AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Here we go again. Are these you will use *my* court terms acceptable or not? :-/ Not, in my opinion. It also has a bogus breathing, eating or talking means you agree to this clause, and it's annoyingly long for a