Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 01:14:30PM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote: I agree that we should be promoting freedom. However, I don't think that our licenses need to promote freedom, so long as they don't restrict it. That is, I don't think I'll ever see the day where we decide not to package BSD or X

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:57:14PM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: License documents that succumb excessively to lawyer's desires to have many sticks with which to beat the licensee should be rejected as non-DFSG-free, because they don't promote

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: I don't think we really need to worry about whether a license promotes freedom; we should worry whether a license restricts that freedom or not. I disagree. Our Social Contract says that our priorities are our users and Free Software. This

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 07:02:55PM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: Publicity rights are not within the scope of copyright law. The right to use people's names or likenesses to promote things is not assumed to attach to copyright licenses in the

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: License documents that succumb excessively to lawyer's desires to have many sticks with which to beat the licensee should be rejected as non-DFSG-free, because they don't promote freedom. I don't think we really need to worry about whether a license

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:09:03PM -0500, David Turner wrote: Copyright (c) year copyright holders Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software), to deal in the Software without restriction,

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: I think Dave's recommendation of the MIT/X11 license, though he didn't call it by that name, is preferable, because it sticks closer to the legal scope of copyright law. Could be. They're slightly different of course, and I'm not well equiped to

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-12 Thread Terry Hancock
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 04:56 pm, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:46:05PM -0800, Terry Hancock wrote: They could, of course, sell the software to someone else, but the usual caveats about selling free software (i.e. you can be easily undersold) apply. That might be

Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-11 Thread Terry Hancock
Admidst the storms of controversy, I'd just like to ask a (hopefully) simple question... ;-) The GPL is the clear winner for being a maximally standard copyleft free license. The BSD license is apparently not directly usable (mentions Berkeley explicitly, etc), so these licenses are generally

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:46:05PM -0800, Terry Hancock wrote: I don't want to ruffle their feathers by making them consider all the license details -- I'd like to just say BSD license or some appropriate standard that they can live with. They could, of course, sell the software to someone

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-11 Thread David Turner
Copyright (c) year copyright holders Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge,

Re: Standard non-copyleft free license?

2003-03-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Terry Hancock wrote: Is there a *standard* boilerplate for a BSD-type or say maximally free non-copyleft license (if BSD doesn't cut it). You're looking for the Modified BSD or so called, 3-clause BSD license. FE, see http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/COPYRIGHT2.html#5