the trademark. If that happens, the maintainer(s) of
this package will have to act quickly to remove the works in question,
even if they are in stable... but I'll be really surprised if they
ever actually care.
Just for the record, I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice.
Don Armstrong
1: I think
seem a bit overdone, it's really in the best interest
of the upstream maintainer to follow the instructions of the GNU GPL
when upstream places code under the GPL.
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* stuff, but since
that's owned by the FSF as well, you're probably ok.]
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Permission to distribute binaries produced by compiling modified
sources is granted, provided you
1. distribute the corresponding source modifications from the
released version in the form
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Glenn Maynard wrote:
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 05:09:03PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
1) Some sort of identification of the author of the work is required
in order to allow people to exercise their DFSG guaranteed freedoms
upon a work.
If we did not have some sort
between the upstream author and the
maintainer via e-mail or similar.
It's probably best to e-mail the upstream author, get clarification,
and include the whole e-mail in the debian/copyright. That's
substantially more reliable than a random announcement on a webpage.
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, not to sacrifice useful freedoms to include
anything in Debian.
While we should tie everything we can back to specific clauses and
interpretations of the DFSG, there's no reason to allow software that
is clearly non-free into Debian simply because it artfully avoids the
letter of the DFSG.
Don Armstrong
1: I
of a obfuscation regex, then it's not
source. [IE, we aren't provided the real prefered form for
modification.]
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of source code than the
prefered form for modification, I haven't seen it yet.
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that was maintained in a
binary only form using a hex-editor for Debian, if for no other reason
than the fact that *I* can't modify the thing or audit it to satisfy a
reasonable level of quality. But that's not to say that Gods or
Goddesses of machine code can't package the thing.
Don Armstrong
going the road of
the GFDL, where it unecessarily restricts the license to very specific
forms of sourcecode, I would consider it. However, the attempts that
I've seen always seem to outlaw rather useful applications that the
GPL's definition appears to allow.
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
point
out specific problems with the license that preclude its application
to a specific class of work. Otherwise we devolve into discussing
generalities and the ever present FUD.
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 12:23:26AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
If -legal is specifically discussing a license of a package, the
maintainer is generally informed[1]
it was not in this case, since the first mention i had was that
consensus was reached
recommended
copyright statement.]
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not possible to do in a free manner.
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in specific localities, cf. the
database directive.]
If you wish to say that there is no copyright protection for a
specific instance in a specific jurisdiction, that may indeed be the
case,[1] but it's quite irresponsible to claim that it is so for all
jurisdictions.
Don Armstrong
1: If it is so, I'd
customers
to download the cryptographic software directly from Debian's mirrors.
Don Armstrong
1: Before crypto-in-main we did this by exporting from a country
without these pesky laws.
2: You may want to use the current techique for dealing with the US
export laws as a starting point in your
be extracted
I'd instead suggest applying a pre-existing license like MIT[1] to the
firmware portion of the code file, rather than inventing your own
licensing text that only partially deals with the problem(s) at issue.
(Inventing licensing text is quite often very hazardous to your
health.)
Don Armstrong
for the documentation for
that software.
Feel free to work at resolving these questions if you have decided
that documentation[3] needs fundamentally different freedoms than
software.
Don Armstrong
1: Inasmuch as I can summarize, since I have rather well known views
on this subject, and am
in Debian should be DFSG Free. [I'd argue additionally that these
random licenses have no business being distributed in Debian at all,
even if they were DFSG Free, but that's a separate matter.]
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If in their place we find
not sure what this license actually improves though, since
the MIT license specifically grants any privilege that can be
excercised by those who are not actually the author. [And, at least in
my opinion, license proliferation is something that should be avoided
at all costs.]
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impossible to return to these
threads at any point in the future. Topicless threads are almost as
bad as threads with a wrong topic.]
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On Fri, 20 May 2005, Michael K. Edwards wrote:
On 5/20/05, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can we please try to hold most of these discussions primarily in
-legal?
I agree entirely. Please review the thread's history
The thread's history just shows where the mistakes were
this panel discussion in slightly
more detail yet?
[also, do you know why it doesn't appear here:
http://comas.linux-aktivaattori.org/debconf5/general/proposals ?]
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in the packed binary
form, assuming that's actually what will be distributed.
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1: By this, I mean hexadecimal: Ox39,0x37 - packed binary: '97'
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On Thu, 26 May 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 08:53:44PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
+ * Permission is hereby granted for the distribution of this firmware
data
+ * in hexadecimal or equivalent format, provided
be
included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software].
The part above is almost a no-op, and a good idea regardless, because
it informs recipients of the work what their rights are, and enables
them to sanely to exercise the granted rights upon the work.
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005, Glenn Maynard wrote:
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 12:53:34PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software].
The part above is almost a no-op, and a good idea
completely. Next?
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, nodata wrote:
http://www.sybase.com/detail?id=1011207
The only registered trademark they have on apt-something is on
APT-FORMS which is now dead.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=fter6b.5.94
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be exercised if the documentation is to be included
in debian (with certain exeptions as agreed on?)
[On that note, before I contribute more to this discussion, I see some
archive reading in my future. {Links to related discussions|topics are
always appreciated.}]
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that happens, mplayer will (probably) not be in Debian.
Note that I am speaking only on behalf of myself, not Debian. I am
*NOT* qualified to speak on behalf of the project. If you think that I
am, you're nuts, and should seek psychiatric or medical evaluation.
Don Armstrong
1: Although
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Don Armstrong wrote:
I'm sure you've read about the libmpeg2 problems I found after 5
minutes of looking through the code.[2] As far as I am aware, they
still haven't been fixed.
Grr. Missing reference.
2: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200301
caselaw, please do.
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to see that happen, but that's the way things work.
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that (in the minds of -legal) we can cease and desist quickly enough
so that it isn't a risk, so be it.
*Shrug*. Software patents are really annoying.
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is filed, and the
problem gets resolved.
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members of -legal, I withdraw it. [Not that it was
ever more than a thought anyway.]
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and company have been able to make sense
of mplayer and can convince the ftpmasters that they have done so.
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[and probably from other GPL'ed
libraries.]
Obviously, if -legal feels that's superfluous, so be it.
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,
and courteously point out the problems that make such wishes
incompatible with the DFSG or the licensing problems that make the
terms of the license unclear.
Ideally, the author will find a license that incorporates his wishes
as much as possible, and remains compatible with the DFSG.
Don Armstrong
changed the files and the date of any change.
I don't think that can be made much clearer.
Should it stop a project's inclusion in debian? Probably not, because
the project can quickly and painlessly modify the files to be in
compliance with this term of the GPL.
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of
the requirement, but I'm pretty sure that they don't fulfill the leter
of the requirement.
Don Armstrong
1: I'm actually not aware of a single example of an FSF copyrighted
GNU program that contains code for which the copyright hasn't been
signed over to FSF.
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IE, generic
from entering the archives? I'd expect
not, as it hasn't held up packages before.[1] But then again, it is
something that we should work with the perl module authors to fix if
we decide that it is a problem.
Don Armstrong
1: I mean, libuser-perl which I packaged only a few months ago
entered
in the copyright/license statement
whether he means gpl+artistic or artistic only, due to the dissonance
between these two statements.
Don Armstrong
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2:http://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2003/debian-perl-200302/msg7.html
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licensing
issue.
Don Armstrong
1: I'm tempted to try to find case law regarding this issue... but
clarity is often better than allowing vague areas where there could be
a ruling.
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not mention explicitly the licenses (GPL+Artistic)
and that seems to be the key issue.
That was one of the problems that was brought up, but it stemed from
the fact that the copyright/license statement doesn't dictate which
version of perl's terms the module is licensed under.
Don Armstrong
1
version 1.0 as of 10/28/2002 or some
such. [Or they should incrememnt the version numbers when they change
something.]
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) OpenSSL Toolkit License Exception; You are explicitly allowed
to compile and distribute the MultiSync software with the OpenSSL
Toolkit.
Thank you, Mikael, for working with upstream and -legal on this issue.
Don Armstrong
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This is not legal advice, I am not a lawyer.
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 22:21, Don Armstrong wrote:
What is the currently recommended method for adding a linking
exception (say with OpenSSL) to a program licensed under the GPL?
http://www.gnu.org
if someone
is going to accuse me of being a murderer someday.]
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license encumbering your freedom to do with the fonts as you wish? I'm
not sure I follow your argument about the software (well, fonts in
this case) being DFSG free but not being Free Software.
Don Armstrong
1:
http://www.bitstream.com/categories/news/press/2003_bitstream/012203_gnome.htm
community benefits (freedom 3).
Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
Don Armstrong
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that is GNU GPL with exceptions, but these
exceptions grant additional rights, instead of imposing additional
restrictions.
I am unaware of any programs distributed in Debian that are licensed
under the GNU GPL with exceptions that impose additional restrictions.
Don Armstrong
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, John Goerzen wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 02:22:44PM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote:
We do have some software that is GNU GPL with exceptions, but these
exceptions grant additional rights, instead of imposing additional
restrictions.
Good point. I wonder, though
, if they wish.
Although, if PHPNuke has javascript (or similar) that is being
executed on the client side, a case could be made that use of phpnuke
on a website is equivalent to distributing it. [If someone is aware of
the FSF or arguments saying otherwise, I'd be glad to hear them.]
Don Armstrong
02111-1307, USA.[1]
clause (or similar) is the reference to the license required by '4']
Of course, if you're saying that the copyright statement doesn't
include a statement of the license terms or a statement of how to get
the license, that is my understanding as well.
Don Armstrong
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Gibson, _Neuromancer_
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should be accessible to the end user, in a manner calculated to be
readily apparent, but it need not harass the user in every invocation.
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running around in darkened rooms, popping pills and listening
?
That worried me a bit as well, although what I presume they mean is
that you may not use bellcore or the authors names to endorse your
product or whatever. Perhaps a clarification from the author would be
sufficient here? (The other X style licenses are much clearer in this
regard.)
Don Armstrong
1: http
as making us unable to identify upstream in
copyright files and on the web.
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can, please do.]
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to the modified and/or derived
works which must be able to be distributed under the same terms as the
license of the original software.
Don Armstrong
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-called new order of tyranny which the
dictators seek to create with the crash of a bomb.[1]
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Junkies were all knitted together in a loose global macrame, the
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, provided that you also meet all of these
conditions:[4]
Additionally, fair use itself limits even the applicability of the
copyright, as explained in [1] [2] and [3].
Don Armstrong
1: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200303/msg00121.html
2: http://lists.debian.org/debian
distributing] you're pretty much talking about this section (or the
license in it's entirety) applying only when you're distributing.
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to packages under those
licenses with additional stipulations or clarifications.
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On Fri, 07 Mar 2003, John Goerzen wrote:
What exactly am I ignoring here? Nothing here seems to require that
I distribute modified copies.
Perhaps I misunderstood you.
What I was getting at is that 2 a-c doesn't apply to modifications you
make that you do not distribute.
Don Armstrong
, and provide links to the
original discussion, perhaps in a website or similar. [That way the
caselaw of -legal becomes a bit more formal, or at least readily
accessible without relying on google to bore through the archives.]
Don Armstrong
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utilized
in ASP where there is little to no contribution of modifications to
the community, but perhaps we should concentrate on using social
pressure against those who would avoid distributing source versus
legal pressure?
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B: What?
N: This drug money funds terror
(if any)
that much stronger.
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taking place. You are free to disagree, but merely citing 106
is not sufficient.
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prefer that people be able to do
with software as they wished in their own homes, so long as they
didn't distribute it.
Don Armstrong
1: http://www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/cases/60_F3d_913.htm
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. It's one license for one group,
and another license for another group.]
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OF SUCH
DAMAGE.
I looked through the rest of your terms, and it seems to meet them,
but obviously, this isn't legal advice, so if you have questions, you
should consider asking a lawyer.
Don Armstrong
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enough for fair use to
kick in. And there's *still* the other three factors to consider.
Could be, but I think we're agreeing that AGU v Texaco doesn't apply
to personal in home modification.
Don Armstrong
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place.
I'd hope so, but you never know these days.[1]
Regardless, their idea is that if you then used their names, it gives
their lawyers an extra stick to beat you with, beyond just using the
standard slander/libel laws. [Plus, they get to bring in the FBI to
track you down.]
Don Armstrong
1
about coming from Debian main.
Certainly. I'm just commenting on the motivation behind the clause.
Since the actual action that the clause prevents is (at least in the
US) illegal in itself, I don't see a significant problem for Debian.
Don Armstrong
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Personally, I think my choice in the mostest
, as is the case in the GPL (linking, etc.),
and many no warranty clauses.
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?
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On Thu, 01 May 2003, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Henning Makholm wrote:
But as we've found out now, the part of the GPL that is actually
invariant is the preamble, which has no legal content...
Can you provide me a reference upon which you are basing this
statement?
I should
they were uploading, or knew and didn't have
time to do anything abou it.
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.
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problem), the license seems to be Free.
You may also want to suggest that the upstream author(s) consider
using a more established license that more conventionally states their
wishes instead of using what appears to be a home-grown license.
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On Thu, 15 May 2003, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:42:43PM -0400, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Sven Luther wrote:
Distribution of derivative works obtained by modifying the sofware or
integrating it in another software is allowed only if the
distribution consists
require
clarification from legal counsel and most likely they would want to
see some sort of clarification from the author as well.]
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for it. I'd gather that most
of us agree with additions that grant permisions, but a few of us are
wary of additions that add restrictions. [I think some of the
discussion regarding mplayer bears this out.]
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you
mplayer is currently not in debian.
Don Armstrong
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2: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200301/msg00168.html
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:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200304/msg00246.html
I've been planning on revising it with an ear to the current
discussion, but as of yet have not had time.
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if this text is good enough. Also I'm
not a native english-speaker so maybe this is not really good english.
So I would be glad about improvements of the above text.
It seems ok to me, but I really can't even guess at it without
actually looking at the license that the manuals are released under.
Don
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Klaus Reimer wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 03:16:14PM -0400, Don Armstrong wrote:
To remove confusion, could you please specify which license these
manuals or texts are under and link directly to them on DJB's
website?
There is no license.
Hrm. Well, that usually
and be legal.
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'em.
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not... but maybe if
I stuck them on a 15m wide canvas with a nice soothing white
background with 2m high black apostrophes they would be...]
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obvious.]
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system which had never before even been recognized as a system; then
such people often devote their lives to convincing other people
to effect:
Well, the license may or may not preclude this, but we feel that it's
resonable for you to do X, Y and Z. In lieu of such a statement, we
should probably assume that we cannot do X, Y, and Z, even if it would
make such a license non-free.]
Don Armstrong
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Clothes make the man. Naked
will still control. At best, (c) will be equivalent to
c-in-a-circle, and you're still at the same situation.
Although I still wonder whether ascii art c-in-a-circle symbols are ok.
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Don Armstrong
--
It seems intuitively obvious to me, which
to say, no? ;-)
Don Armstrong
--
[Panama, 1989. The U.S. government called it Operation Just Cause.]
I think they misspelled this. Shouldn't it be Operation Just 'Cause?
-- TekPolitik http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=59669cid=5664907
http://www.donarmstrong.com
http://www.anylevel.com
http
to tell
people to Cc: you. I've adjusted it accordingly.
Don Armstrong
--
You could say she lived on the edge... Well, maybe not exactly on the edge,
just close enough to watch other people fall off.
-- hugh macleod http://www.gapingvoid.com/batch8.htm
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