Re: Bug#681654: #681654 kstars-data-extra-tycho2: undistributable
On Domingo, 18 de noviembre de 2012 11:01:39 Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:15:01AM +0100, Francesco Poli a écrit : On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:02:13 +0900 Charles Plessy wrote: [...] Catalogues available at CDS contain scientific data distributed for free, for a scientific usage. [...] Doesn't this fail DFSG#6 ? Hi, given that it comes from an email conversation and not a proper license, it is hard to decide if it has to be taken as a disclaimer or as a restriction. So if it is a serious concern, it means that a more formal clarification is needed. Cheers, I think that the formal Policy of the place where the Catalogue was obtained by the author is relevant: Data was obtained from NASA ADC (today offline). Its policy can be read today here: http://web.archive.org/web/20070303235508/http://adc.astro.umd.edu/adc/questions_feedback.html#policies It reads: All ADC data are public domain unless otherwise stated in the ReadMe file. The data are for scientific use only and have no commercial value. I think this supports similarity with SIL-OFL, since it does not forbids commercial use, it merely states that data have no commercial value. These PD data were modified by KStars team to obtain the deepstars.dat file, GPL licensed by them. But of course IANAL and I pledge to whatever is decided in this list. Thanks - A: Because it breaks the logical flow of discussion. Q: Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Bug#681654: #681654 kstars-data-extra-tycho2: undistributable
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:02:13 +0900 Charles Plessy wrote: [...] Catalogues available at CDS contain scientific data distributed for free, for a scientific usage. [...] Doesn't this fail DFSG#6 ? What if I want to use the data for non-scientific purposes (for instance, I could desire to use the data within a work of art, for aesthetic purposes)? -- http://www.inventati.org/frx/frx-gpg-key-transition-2010.txt New GnuPG key, see the transition document! . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == CA01 1147 9CD2 EFDF FB82 3925 3E1C 27E1 1F69 BFFE pgp58O9WOxKdU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#681654: #681654 kstars-data-extra-tycho2: undistributable
Le Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:15:01AM +0100, Francesco Poli a écrit : On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:02:13 +0900 Charles Plessy wrote: [...] Catalogues available at CDS contain scientific data distributed for free, for a scientific usage. [...] Doesn't this fail DFSG#6 ? Hi, given that it comes from an email conversation and not a proper license, it is hard to decide if it has to be taken as a disclaimer or as a restriction. So if it is a serious concern, it means that a more formal clarification is needed. Cheers, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121118110139.ga8...@falafel.plessy.net
Re: Bug#681654: #681654 kstars-data-extra-tycho2: undistributable
On Miércoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 17:35:44 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: if http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681654#52 is correct and the issue is commercial use (and not nondistributability) how about just moving kstars-data-extra-tycho2 to non-free instead of having this bug delay wheezy release? You can always reintroduce it back to main if the issue is solved. Le Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:44:42PM +, Noel David Torres Taño a écrit : I agree, iff debian-legal agrees so Hello everybody, Here is the statement in 681654#52 Catalogues available at CDS contain scientific data distributed for free, for a scientific usage. Companies including such data in their commercial products cannot charge their clients for the data. Furthermore, users must be informed of the origin of the data: this means an explicit reference to the service provided by the CDS and also to the original author(s) of each catalogue. For me, it looks reminescent of the SIL Open Font License, which states: The OFL allows the licensed fonts to be used, studied, modified and redistributed freely as long as they are not sold by themselves. If one considers that in the statement in 681654#52, cannot charge for the data means the same as not sold by themselves in the OFL, then it would be consistent to keep kstars-data-extra-tycho2 in Debian, as SIL-OFL-licensed works are allowed. Have a nice Sunday, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121118000213.ga10...@plessy.org
