packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven LUTHER
Hello, ... Well, this will be a complex question, and the subject is not all that speaking, i apologize for it... I maintain the ocaml package, which is a language which can produce bytecode executables to be run in a virtual machine (as java does) or native code executables (well, the source

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sven LUTHER: Is there a way to handle this so that apt will get the native code package if it is available, and resort to the bytecode one on arches not supporting the native code compiler ? Some sort of priorities or something such ? I'd split the packages in three: - ocaml

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Sven LUTHER: Is there a way to handle this so that apt will get the native code package if it is available, and resort to the bytecode one on arches not supporting the native code compiler ? Some sort of priorities or

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd split the packages in three: - ocaml (arch-independent, common stuff) - ocaml-bytecode (ditto, bytecode interpreter) - ocaml-native (arch-dependent, compiles to native code) You miss the point: the ocaml package is already

Re: Control File

2002-10-04 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 2.10.2002 19:28 Uhr, Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The i in front of the comma. Simon Thanks. Do you have an idea why my Debian still wants to install apache-common when I make apt-get install php4? My control file is now (sorry the last one was the old one): Source:

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Stefano Zacchiroli: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd split the packages in three: - ocaml (arch-independent, common stuff) - ocaml-bytecode (ditto, bytecode interpreter) - ocaml-native (arch-dependent, compiles to native code) You miss the

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 12:23:41PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Stefano Zacchiroli: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd split the packages in three: - ocaml (arch-independent, common stuff) - ocaml-bytecode (ditto, bytecode interpreter) -

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sven Luther: In case i submit a patch or something such, should i discuss things first, or just go ahead and implement it ? Probably talk about it first... though frankly I don't see a different way of implementing what you want, and the feature would be nice. (I got bitten by it

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 01:20:34PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Sven Luther: In case i submit a patch or something such, should i discuss things first, or just go ahead and implement it ? Probably talk about it first... though frankly I don't see a different way of implementing

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2002-10-04 at 10:09, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Sven LUTHER: Is there a way to handle this so that apt will get the native code package if it is available, and resort to the bytecode one on arches not supporting the

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 01:44:50PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: On Fre, 2002-10-04 at 10:09, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Sven LUTHER: Is there a way to handle this so that apt will get the native code package if it is

Re: Control File

2002-10-04 Thread Roland Mas
Zeno Davatz (2002-10-04 11:13:59 +0200) : On 2.10.2002 19:28 Uhr, Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The i in front of the comma. Simon Thanks. Do you have an idea why my Debian still wants to install apache-common when I make apt-get install php4? Maybe because php4 depends on a

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Joey Hess
Sven LUTHER wrote: Since the bytecode executables are arch independent, i think it would be nice to build them arch: all, since this would mean, apart from smaller sized packages, also that we don't have 12+ version of the same thing in the archive (well, at least we can spare all the arches

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Jérôme Marant
En réponse à Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sven LUTHER wrote: Since the bytecode executables are arch independent, i think it would be nice to build them arch: all, since this would mean, apart from smaller sized packages, also that we don't have 12+ version of the same thing in the

Re: Request for sponsor

2002-10-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 06:17:32PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.03.0013 +0200]: Please could someone sponsor an upload of IJS? Please give me exact information what this does. I'd be happy to sponsor you if I know more and if I know about

Re: Build-Depends/Depends wierdness

2002-10-04 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Michel Dänzer said: On Don, 2002-10-03 at 20:09, Stephen Gran wrote: In my control file, I just use ${shlibs:Depends} in the Depends: field. After building (in a Woody chroot, thanks to pbuilder - great tool!) I get a Depends: that looks like this:

Re: Request for sponsor

2002-10-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.04.2051 +0200]: In case you don't mind, I'm about upload IJS later today. If you want to take over, go ahead. All yours. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; net@madduck

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 11:25:55AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Sven LUTHER wrote: Since the bytecode executables are arch independent, i think it would be nice to build them arch: all, since this would mean, apart from smaller sized packages, also that we don't have 12+ version of the same

Pinging Scott Dier, or looking for keysigners in Minneapolis

2002-10-04 Thread Joe Wreschnig
Scott, are you still out there? On 6-17 you said you could sign my key, and I've tried to get in touch with you twice since then. Otherwise, I'm still looking for an existing developer to sign my key, in the Minneapolis area, near the UMN campus. I don't have a car and can't drive anyway, so it

Re: Request for sponsor

2002-10-04 Thread Roger Leigh
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: also sprach Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.03.0013 +0200]: Please could someone sponsor an upload of IJS? Please give me exact information what this does. I'd be happy to sponsor you if I know more and if I know about the general topic

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Joey Hess
Sven LUTHER wrote: Well, what about the coq for example, which is 7 MB package (on i386, so maybe it is bigger for other arches) and 20MB installed. I guess it's on the line. There is also the buildd resources, especially on the slower arches. I guess it takes much time to build coq on m68k

Re: Build-Depends/Depends wierdness

2002-10-04 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Stephen Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit: No, that was actually quite helpful. I am chasing this around because someone who wrote me offlist suggested that it actually depended on more libraries than I had listed. I checked with objdump, and it agrees with the generated field (as

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 07:38:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Sven LUTHER wrote: Well, what about the coq for example, which is 7 MB package (on i386, so maybe it is bigger for other arches) and 20MB installed. I guess it's on the line. I thought so, But sure, this is the biggest project

Re: Control File

2002-10-04 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 2.10.2002 19:28 Uhr, Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The i in front of the comma. Simon Thanks. Do you have an idea why my Debian still wants to install apache-common when I make apt-get install php4? My control file is now: Source: apache-ssl-ywesee Section: web Priority:

packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven LUTHER
Hello, ... Well, this will be a complex question, and the subject is not all that speaking, i apologize for it... I maintain the ocaml package, which is a language which can produce bytecode executables to be run in a virtual machine (as java does) or native code executables (well, the source is

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sven LUTHER: Is there a way to handle this so that apt will get the native code package if it is available, and resort to the bytecode one on arches not supporting the native code compiler ? Some sort of priorities or something such ? I'd split the packages in three: - ocaml

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Sven LUTHER: Is there a way to handle this so that apt will get the native code package if it is available, and resort to the bytecode one on arches not supporting the native code compiler ? Some sort of priorities or

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd split the packages in three: - ocaml (arch-independent, common stuff) - ocaml-bytecode (ditto, bytecode interpreter) - ocaml-native (arch-dependent, compiles to native code) You miss the point: the ocaml package is already

Re: Control File

2002-10-04 Thread Zeno Davatz
On 2.10.2002 19:28 Uhr, Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The i in front of the comma. Simon Thanks. Do you have an idea why my Debian still wants to install apache-common when I make apt-get install php4? My control file is now (sorry the last one was the old one): Source:

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Stefano Zacchiroli: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd split the packages in three: - ocaml (arch-independent, common stuff) - ocaml-bytecode (ditto, bytecode interpreter) - ocaml-native (arch-dependent, compiles to native code) You miss the

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 12:23:41PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Stefano Zacchiroli: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd split the packages in three: - ocaml (arch-independent, common stuff) - ocaml-bytecode (ditto, bytecode interpreter) -

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sven Luther: In case i submit a patch or something such, should i discuss things first, or just go ahead and implement it ? Probably talk about it first... though frankly I don't see a different way of implementing what you want, and the feature would be nice. (I got bitten by it

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 01:20:34PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Sven Luther: In case i submit a patch or something such, should i discuss things first, or just go ahead and implement it ? Probably talk about it first... though frankly I don't see a different way of implementing

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2002-10-04 at 10:09, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Sven LUTHER: Is there a way to handle this so that apt will get the native code package if it is available, and resort to the bytecode one on arches not supporting the

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 01:44:50PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: On Fre, 2002-10-04 at 10:09, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:12:52AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Sven LUTHER: Is there a way to handle this so that apt will get the native code package if it is

Re: Control File

2002-10-04 Thread Roland Mas
Zeno Davatz (2002-10-04 11:13:59 +0200) : On 2.10.2002 19:28 Uhr, Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The i in front of the comma. Simon Thanks. Do you have an idea why my Debian still wants to install apache-common when I make apt-get install php4? Maybe because php4 depends on a

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Joey Hess
Sven LUTHER wrote: Since the bytecode executables are arch independent, i think it would be nice to build them arch: all, since this would mean, apart from smaller sized packages, also that we don't have 12+ version of the same thing in the archive (well, at least we can spare all the arches

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Jérôme Marant
En réponse à Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sven LUTHER wrote: Since the bytecode executables are arch independent, i think it would be nice to build them arch: all, since this would mean, apart from smaller sized packages, also that we don't have 12+ version of the same thing in the

Re: Request for sponsor

2002-10-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.03.0013 +0200]: Please could someone sponsor an upload of IJS? Please give me exact information what this does. I'd be happy to sponsor you if I know more and if I know about the general topic that this library deals with. -- martin;

Re: Request for sponsor

2002-10-04 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 06:17:32PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.03.0013 +0200]: Please could someone sponsor an upload of IJS? Please give me exact information what this does. I'd be happy to sponsor you if I know more and if I know about

Re: Build-Depends/Depends wierdness

2002-10-04 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Michel Dänzer said: On Don, 2002-10-03 at 20:09, Stephen Gran wrote: In my control file, I just use ${shlibs:Depends} in the Depends: field. After building (in a Woody chroot, thanks to pbuilder - great tool!) I get a Depends: that looks like this:

Re: Request for sponsor

2002-10-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.04.2051 +0200]: In case you don't mind, I'm about upload IJS later today. If you want to take over, go ahead. All yours. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL

Re: packages which can be arch: all and arch: any ...

2002-10-04 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 11:25:55AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Sven LUTHER wrote: Since the bytecode executables are arch independent, i think it would be nice to build them arch: all, since this would mean, apart from smaller sized packages, also that we don't have 12+ version of the same

Pinging Scott Dier, or looking for keysigners in Minneapolis

2002-10-04 Thread Joe Wreschnig
Scott, are you still out there? On 6-17 you said you could sign my key, and I've tried to get in touch with you twice since then. Otherwise, I'm still looking for an existing developer to sign my key, in the Minneapolis area, near the UMN campus. I don't have a car and can't drive anyway, so it

Re: Request for sponsor

2002-10-04 Thread Roger Leigh
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: also sprach Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.03.0013 +0200]: Please could someone sponsor an upload of IJS? Please give me exact information what this does. I'd be happy to sponsor you if I know more and if I know about the general topic that