Re: files in .deb

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] * Add your file to the package somewhere * Modify debian/rules (or possibly one of the debhelper config files if it's using debhelper) to install your file at a particular location [...] Is using the install(1) command recommended, or is

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Robert Bihlmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frank Gevaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK, non-free only needs permission to redistribute. Yes. For examples of disqualified-from-non-free software look at the various installers. Newer Sun JDKs also haven't made it into non-free (don't

Re: New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Richter
Agney, I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. A maintainer is someone who maintains a package, while a developer has an account on the Debian machines and permission to upload. These two are basically distinct (i.e. you can maintain a package without being a developer

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz. Why would dh_make go out of its way to violate best practices like

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: As an aside I wonder how well SE-Linux, or the other improved security patches handle installation issues? I know that by installing a random package you're effectively giving the package maintainer root upon your box. I'd imagine that a package installation

Re: How to build a package from cvs.

2003-03-01 Thread Junichi Uekawa
I am (have already) building a new package from the cvs tree, but my question is: Shall I run the autobuild (called bootstrap) on my system and go with the package using those results or I shall modify my debian/rules to create the Makefile.in and friends during compilation time? It

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:19:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: if a program license restricts usage to e.g. non-commercial use only, will this (usually) disqualify a package from inclusion into non-free? In the Debian Policy 2.1.6 there is a warning about usage restrictions but no definite

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:46:58PM -0500, Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: Checking the license on some software the I would like to add. Does this copyright meet the debian requirements. I'm thinking this package would end up in non-free if it does qualify. /*** Copyright Notice

Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:25:16PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:41:18AM +0100, Xavier Roche wrote: In this case, should the package just document what the use should do (it will be different for each MTA) or at least detect which MTA is installed and copy an

Re: New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 01 Mar 2003, Agney Lopes Roth Ferraz wrote: I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. http://nm.debian.org I read in debian page that the only way to became maintainer is developing some nice program, but I have two friends that are only who make the .deb

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:19:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: if a program license restricts usage to e.g. non-commercial use only, will this (usually) disqualify a package from inclusion into non-free? In the Debian Policy 2.1.6 there is a

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20030301T132435+0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: Is there a list of removed packages available anywhere, together with reasons for the removal? http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt lists removals starting some two years ago. F-Prot for GNU/Linux _has_ been distributed by others, e.g. by

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:22:20PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: Well I fully agree with you, but let me explain: Completely by chance I took over maintainership of the f-prot-installer package, which is in contrib. Since an installer package may easily fail (when the vendor changes file names,

Re: files in .deb

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] * Add your file to the package somewhere * Modify debian/rules (or possibly one of the debhelper config files if it's using debhelper) to install your file at a particular location [...] Is using the install(1) command recommended, or is

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Robert Bihlmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frank Gevaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK, non-free only needs permission to redistribute. Yes. For examples of disqualified-from-non-free software look at the various installers. Newer Sun JDKs also haven't made it into non-free (don't

Re: New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Richter
Agney, I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. A maintainer is someone who maintains a package, while a developer has an account on the Debian machines and permission to upload. These two are basically distinct (i.e. you can maintain a package without being a developer

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz. Why would dh_make go out of its way to violate best practices like

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: As an aside I wonder how well SE-Linux, or the other improved security patches handle installation issues? I know that by installing a random package you're effectively giving the package maintainer root upon your box. I'd imagine that a package installation

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:42:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: You should really ask Russell Coker on -devel. There may well be a policy to limit postinst scripts to the things that postinst scripts typically do. Thanks I shall. I was thinking was that a postinst script, or package

Re: How to build a package from cvs.

2003-03-01 Thread Junichi Uekawa
I am (have already) building a new package from the cvs tree, but my question is: Shall I run the autobuild (called bootstrap) on my system and go with the package using those results or I shall modify my debian/rules to create the Makefile.in and friends during compilation time? It

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:19:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: if a program license restricts usage to e.g. non-commercial use only, will this (usually) disqualify a package from inclusion into non-free? In the Debian Policy 2.1.6 there is a warning about usage restrictions but no definite

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:46:58PM -0500, Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: Checking the license on some software the I would like to add. Does this copyright meet the debian requirements. I'm thinking this package would end up in non-free if it does qualify. /*** Copyright Notice

Re: New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 01 Mar 2003, Agney Lopes Roth Ferraz wrote: I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. http://nm.debian.org I read in debian page that the only way to became maintainer is developing some nice program, but I have two friends that are only who make the .deb

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:19:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: if a program license restricts usage to e.g. non-commercial use only, will this (usually) disqualify a package from inclusion into non-free? In the Debian Policy 2.1.6 there is a

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20030301T132435+0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: Is there a list of removed packages available anywhere, together with reasons for the removal? http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt lists removals starting some two years ago. F-Prot for GNU/Linux _has_ been distributed by others, e.g. by

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:22:20PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: Well I fully agree with you, but let me explain: Completely by chance I took over maintainership of the f-prot-installer package, which is in contrib. Since an installer package may easily fail (when the vendor changes file names,

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Personally, BTW, I would really, really prefer to maintain Free Software, not *only* for political reasons but also because a commercial vendor is obviously the least responsive upstream you can have. And also, not having access to the

Feedback about my two packages

2003-03-01 Thread Derek J Witt
Good evening, all. I just wanted some feedback on how I could improve my two packages mentioned below. -- Derek Witt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] witty-cdplayer: I have written a CD Player that uses cdda2wav as a backend. This was written to allow skipping CD/DVD-ROM/RW

New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Agney Lopes Roth Ferraz
Hi mentors, I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. I read in debian page that the only way to became maintainer is developing some nice program, but I have two friends that are only who make the .deb package. The situation is: I don't have a nice package develped by me,