sponsor (Re: RFS: gnofract4d)

2007-05-06 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 01:18 +0200, francesco namuri wrote: Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for my package gnofract4d. Package name: gnofract4d Version : 3.3-1 Upstream Author : Tim Whidbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL :

request for sponsoring = RFS, intent to sponsor = ITS ?

2007-05-06 Thread Bart Martens
Hi Mentors, Is there some agreed abbreviation that can be used in the subject of messages posted on debian-mentors to indicate that a mentor intends to sponsor a package? If not, could ITS = intent to sponsor work? Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: request for sponsoring = RFS, intent to sponsor = ITS ?

2007-05-06 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Bart, * Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-06 11:14]: Is there some agreed abbreviation that can be used in the subject of messages posted on debian-mentors to indicate that a mentor intends to sponsor a package? No. If not, could ITS = intent to sponsor work? Sounds good! Kind

Re: request for sponsoring = RFS, intent to sponsor = ITS ?

2007-05-06 Thread Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 12:20:10PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: If not, could ITS = intent to sponsor work? Would a 'review without ITS' be done by a simple reply to the RFS without a subject marking? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: request for sponsoring = RFS, intent to sponsor = ITS ?

2007-05-06 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-06 12:51]: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 12:20:10PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: If not, could ITS = intent to sponsor work? Would a 'review without ITS' be done by a simple reply to the RFS without a subject marking? Yes I think so, this

Re: request for sponsoring = RFS, intent to sponsor = ITS ?

2007-05-06 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 05:48 -0500, Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 12:20:10PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: If not, could ITS = intent to sponsor work? Would a 'review without ITS' be done by a simple reply to the RFS without a subject marking? Yes, I wasn't clear

Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread David Paleino
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mentors, I'm trying to partecipate to the Utnubu [1] project, which aims at providing Debian with packages already available for *buntu. So, reading the list of missing packages [2], I've successfully packaged nanoweb. There already is a bug open

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 06 May 2007 17:43:37 +0200 David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to partecipate to the Utnubu [1] project, which aims at providing Debian with packages already available for *buntu. So, reading the list of missing packages [2], I've successfully packaged nanoweb. There

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 17:43 +0200, David Paleino wrote: I've successfully packaged nanoweb. There already is a bug open [3], but if you read over there, there are (were) some copyright issues. In fact, the program itself is released under GPLv2 (and later), while it is based on PHP, which is

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Alex Queiroz
Hallo, On 5/6/07, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also share Vorlon's opinion about the package as a whole: In addition, the concept of a webserver written entirely in PHP is utterly abominable, an example of total programming putrifaction. I expect this code to be so inherently

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 01:22:34PM -0300, Alex Queiroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, On 5/6/07, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also share Vorlon's opinion about the package as a whole: In addition, the concept of a webserver written entirely in PHP is utterly abominable,

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Hi, On Sonntag, 6. Mai 2007, Alex Queiroz wrote: On 5/6/07, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also share Vorlon's opinion about the package as a whole: In addition, the concept of a webserver written entirely in PHP is utterly abominable, an example of total programming

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 6 May 2007 13:22:34 -0300 Alex Queiroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, On 5/6/07, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also share Vorlon's opinion about the package as a whole: In addition, the concept of a webserver written entirely in PHP is utterly abominable, an

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 13:22 -0300, Alex Queiroz wrote: Hallo, On 5/6/07, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also share Vorlon's opinion about the package as a whole: In addition, the concept of a webserver written entirely in PHP is utterly abominable, an example of total

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sunday 6 May 2007 17:43, David Paleino wrote: Now, as Steve Langasek pointed out in that bug report: PHP is GPL-incompatible. You cannot distribute GPL software together with GPL-incompatible software that it depends on without a license exemption from the copyright holder of the GPL

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Alex Queiroz
Hallo, On 5/6/07, Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 6 May 2007 18:22, Alex Queiroz wrote: This is a very sad opinion. Is Debian censoring programming languages now? Challenging whether some software would be an asset to Debian is not cersorship by any definition of the word,

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sunday 6 May 2007 18:22, Alex Queiroz wrote:      This is a very sad opinion. Is Debian censoring programming languages now? Challenging whether some software would be an asset to Debian is not cersorship by any definition of the word, but voicing an opinion. I'm glad that that is possible

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 6 May 2007 13:46:21 -0300 Alex Queiroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a very sad opinion. Is Debian censoring programming languages now? Challenging whether some software would be an asset to Debian is not cersorship by any definition of the word, but voicing an opinion. I'm

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Alex Queiroz
Hallo, On 5/6/07, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't about PHP, it isn't about copyright, it is simply a bad package that was badly thought out and badly implemented with the wrong design in mind. The idea of a web server written in PHP is ludicrous. Debian should and does

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hello, On 5/6/07, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't about PHP, it isn't about copyright, it is simply a bad package that was badly thought out and badly implemented with the wrong design in mind. The idea of a web server written in PHP is ludicrous. In my very personal

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread David Paleino
2007/5/6, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought that Steve's statement on that is clear - I wouldn't expect many sponsors to disagree. The question is whether the package merely uses PHP or whether it links into PHP. From my reading of the bug report, nanoweb is not merely a PHP

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread David Paleino
2007/5/6, Stefan Fritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Sonntag, 6. Mai 2007, Alex Queiroz wrote: This is a very sad opinion. Is Debian censoring programming languages now? No, but it is already a lot of work to provide security support for the php apps in Debian. Ubuntu's popcon shows an

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread David Paleino
2007/5/6, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If Ubuntu want nanoweb they are welcome to it. I see no reason to haul this excuse of a package into Debian. I write PHP, I like PHP - within limits - but I can honestly say I have never come across a more inappropriate use of PHP than nanoweb. What's

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread David Paleino
2007/5/6, David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Mentors, ... Ok, ok. Sorry for having generated such a huge thread. What I was looking for were just opinions of DDs, who have, for sure, much more experience than me about packages and software that should be in Debian. I'm not intentioned

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread David Paleino
2007/5/6, Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 6 May 2007 20:23, David Paleino wrote: Why? And a web server written in awk, then? Is that of any real-world use? I've seen implementations of that on the Internet. I admit that this is not enough reason to package it though. Right. The

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 20:20 +0200, David Paleino wrote: 2007/5/6, Stefan Fritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Sonntag, 6. Mai 2007, Alex Queiroz wrote: This is a very sad opinion. Is Debian censoring programming languages now? No, but it is already a lot of work to provide

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 6 May 2007 14:38:38 -0300 Alex Queiroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, On 5/6/07, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't about PHP, it isn't about copyright, it is simply a bad package that was badly thought out and badly implemented with the wrong design in mind.

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sunday 6 May 2007 20:20, David Paleino wrote: I think the situation in Ubuntu is different because there is no real security support for universe (please correct me if I am wrong). Universe corresponds to? Contrib? There's no direct matching here. While in Debian all software in main is

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sunday 6 May 2007 20:23, David Paleino wrote: Why? And a web server written in awk, then? Is that of any real-world use? I've seen implementations of that on the Internet. I admit that this is not enough reason to package it though. Right. The main question for me that is not answered here

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 6 May 2007 20:29:31 +0200 David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, ok. Sorry for having generated such a huge thread. Don't worry about it. Rants can be fun! ;-) Nothing in the thread reflects on you, only on the proposed package. I'm not intentioned anymore in packaging it,

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Alex Queiroz
Hallo, On 5/6/07, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? It flows inexorably from the acknowledged fact that PHP is afflicted with more than a fair share of security bugs, allied to the fact that a webserver is a particularly BAD place to have a package that is known to be very vulnerable

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:29:37PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 6 May 2007 20:23, David Paleino wrote: Why? And a web server written in awk, then? Is that of any real-world use? I've seen implementations of that on the Internet. I admit that this is not

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Raphael Geissert
On 06/05/07, Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:29:37PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 6 May 2007 20:23, David Paleino wrote: Why? And a web server written in awk, then? Is that of any real-world use? I've seen implementations of

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Joey Hess
David Paleino wrote: Why? And a web server written in awk, then? Is that of any real-world use? I've seen implementations of that on the Internet. I admit that this is not enough reason to package it though. d-i contains a web server written in shell, fwiw. -- see shy jo signature.asc

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 05:40:37PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: If Ubuntu want nanoweb they are welcome to it. I see no reason to haul this excuse of a package into Debian. I write PHP, I like PHP - within limits - but I can honestly say I have never come across a more inappropriate use of PHP

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 06:26:01PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Sunday 6 May 2007 17:43, David Paleino wrote: Now, as Steve Langasek pointed out in that bug report: PHP is GPL-incompatible. You cannot distribute GPL software together with GPL-incompatible software that it depends on

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Raphael
On 06/05/07, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 05:40:37PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: If Ubuntu want nanoweb they are welcome to it. I see no reason to haul this excuse of a package into Debian. I write PHP, I like PHP - within limits - but I can honestly say I

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 04:55:58PM -0500, Raphael wrote: On 06/05/07, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 05:40:37PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: If Ubuntu want nanoweb they are welcome to it. I see no reason to haul this excuse of a package into Debian. I write

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Sunday 06 May 2007 20:49, Mike Hommey wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:29:37PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 6 May 2007 20:23, David Paleino wrote: Why? And a web server written in awk, then? Is that of any real-world use? I've seen implementations of

Re: Copyright issues GPL-PHP license

2007-05-06 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Heya, In addition, the concept of a webserver written entirely in PHP is utterly abominable, an example of total programming putrifaction. I expect this code to be so inherently unmaintainable that its very presence would warrant an RC bug. As a DD and as a user of PHP, I would ask that

RFS: gnomeradio

2007-05-06 Thread francesco namuri
Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for my package gnomeradio. Package name: gnomeradio Version : 1.7-1 Upstream Author : Jörgen Scheibengruber [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.wh-hms.uni-ulm.de/~mfcn/gnomeradio/ License : GPL Section :