Re: package does not build everywhere due to midding header -- help sought

that you need for building. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: package does not build everywhere due to midding header -- help sought

that you need for building. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpIqPjpvkFE3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Registro

probablement este traducida en espagnol tambien. Cierto, la traducción española de esta página está al día. Saludos, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Registro

probablement este traducida en espagnol tambien. Cierto, la traducción española de esta página está al día. Saludos, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp16lDUTt4NI.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Seeking help with package naming

would suggest ccze-perl and ccze-slang. (Isn't libfoo-perl reserved for packages that are perl modules?) Cheers, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Seeking help with package naming

would suggest ccze-perl and ccze-slang. (Isn't libfoo-perl reserved for packages that are perl modules?) Cheers, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpXH8J5pXfHz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 02:07:02AM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally, BTW, I would really, really prefer to maintain Free Software, not *only* for political reasons but also because a commercial vendor is obviously the least responsive

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 02:07:02AM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally, BTW, I would really, really prefer to maintain Free Software, not *only* for political reasons but also because a commercial vendor is obviously the least responsive

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

? Is the software already in wide use, or will including it in non-free increase its visibility -- leading more people to use non-free software? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

, so it can be uploaded to non-free. In the future, please send licensing questions to debian-legal. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed

believe it is permitted to depend on a non-free package as a possible, but not preferred, alternative in a list. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

-quality one. Did I miss something? If yes, please let me know! Have you looked at the packages amavis-ng and clamav? I've heard good things about these DFSG-free virus tools, but haven't tried them yet myself. Regards, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

? Is the software already in wide use, or will including it in non-free increase its visibility -- leading more people to use non-free software? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpw6co4ZjtQh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

, so it can be uploaded to non-free. In the future, please send licensing questions to debian-legal. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

-quality one. Did I miss something? If yes, please let me know! Have you looked at the packages amavis-ng and clamav? I've heard good things about these DFSG-free virus tools, but haven't tried them yet myself. Regards, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpcE6U3HKAXL.pgp Description: PGP

Re: expiring gpg key, how do I update it?

, is it enough to update the expiration date and submit it to the key server? Yes. Do I have to get my key re-signed? No. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: expiring gpg key, how do I update it?

, is it enough to update the expiration date and submit it to the key server? Yes. Do I have to get my key re-signed? No. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpSeSpjTJ7VA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Upstream author wants maintainer

widely used DBD/DBI interface. Are there ODBC modules available for GNU/Linux systems for RDBMS that can't be accessed through DBD? Cheers, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer

Re: question about package with binary and library

to ship these as separate packages; you want a single binary package here. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg08649/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: question about package with binary and library

to ship these as separate packages; you want a single binary package here. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpe9oGqZ3hKO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Warning about Debian New Maintainer Application

decide to avoid computers like the plague whilst doing so :-) Are you familiar with what the Developer's Reference says about one's duties when going on vacation? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg08523/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Warning about Debian New Maintainer Application

decide to avoid computers like the plague whilst doing so :-) Are you familiar with what the Developer's Reference says about one's duties when going on vacation? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp4bJFKFccQw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dkg@internetpeople.at: [SMARTY-DEV] Debian package for smarty?]

. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg08441/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dkg@internetpeople.at: [SMARTY-DEV] Debian package for smarty?]

. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpjrhzCr0MlD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Package Versioning question

with when they got to that point. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpvKlH10O1wg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: check my debian package (smarty)..

to convert to. This means that leaving it to the X server to do the conversion wil rapidly exhaust the color map for no good reason. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg08230/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: check my debian package (smarty)..

to convert to. This means that leaving it to the X server to do the conversion wil rapidly exhaust the color map for no good reason. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpGxB3ePVYpk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: NSS library dependencies

On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 05:08:06PM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:39:43PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: As libnss-ldap can be configured to use SASL (and as a result, pluggable modules), I don't think static linking is a very feasible solution. A better question

Re: smb-network package

to get a list of shares (net share -S server -U username). Regards, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg08199/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: smb-network package

to get a list of shares (net share -S server -U username). Regards, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp8zVTIL7jAy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Looking for a `light' library deb in order to serve as an example.

: 52dc182866d95e00510b08d3026ba9b4 Description: Free Implementation of the Unicode BiDi algorithm FriBiDi is a BiDi algorithm implementation for Hebrew and/or Arabic languages. Regards, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpfOkgi7n4mJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: NSS library dependencies

. And why does RPC care about username resolution? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg08176/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: NSS library dependencies

. And why does RPC care about username resolution? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpJS0v43svpH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: NSS library dependencies

On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 12:18:35AM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:39:43PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:07:42AM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote: The only proper solution (which i was looking into this weekend actually) would be to statically

Re: NSS library dependencies

On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 12:18:35AM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:39:43PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:07:42AM +0200, Sami Haahtinen wrote: The only proper solution (which i was looking into this weekend actually) would be to statically

Re: uploading to stable

. It's also not possible to use the exact same package version twice when uploading. You must use a unique package version for each upload, while still meeting the version requirements above. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg08157/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: uploading to stable

. It's also not possible to use the exact same package version twice when uploading. You must use a unique package version for each upload, while still meeting the version requirements above. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpHceTSmulSh.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: NSS library dependencies

are being unmounted should not require NSS to do their job; and in fact, on none of the machines where I use nss_ldap have I had problems with drives not being unmounted cleanly. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg08149/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: NSS library dependencies

are being unmounted should not require NSS to do their job; and in fact, on none of the machines where I use nss_ldap have I had problems with drives not being unmounted cleanly. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpRwJMe4DHkJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: postinst and debconf again

?? Why do you believe this message should be shown to the admin again after it's already been shown once? It is possible, but you should be sure it's needed before adding such complexity to your maintainer scripts. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg08140/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: postinst and debconf again

it's been shown before, and this results in a different return code. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp1vODrdCX6F.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: postinst and debconf again

minds, so it might be ok. It looks like the questions asked are related to things that may not be available on the system (databases) at the preconfigure stage, so in this case I think it's ok to ask in the postinst script itself. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer #! /bin/sh -ex . /usr

Re: postinst and debconf again

?? Why do you believe this message should be shown to the admin again after it's already been shown once? It is possible, but you should be sure it's needed before adding such complexity to your maintainer scripts. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpPUjsaXEgEh.pgp Description: PGP

Re: postinst and debconf again

a message. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpgIaouDvecR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: NSS library dependencies

On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 03:42:00PM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote: * Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021217 08:47]: What information are you trying to store in LDAP that is so essential to the system prior to mounting of /usr? [...] Using LDAP information as a replacement for almost all

Re: NSS library dependencies

obviously isn't running locally either, with no /usr) until about the same time as /usr is mounted. If you have records that are needed by the system prior to mounting of /usr, these ought to be stored in a local database backend such as /etc/passwd. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer

Re: NSS library dependencies

On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 03:42:00PM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote: * Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021217 08:47]: What information are you trying to store in LDAP that is so essential to the system prior to mounting of /usr? [...] Using LDAP information as a replacement for almost all

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

python stores everything in /usr/lib, again as a practical concession to the fact that upstream installation directories don't make it easy to use separate paths for arch-independent and arch-dependent objects. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07861/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

python stores everything in /usr/lib, again as a practical concession to the fact that upstream installation directories don't make it easy to use separate paths for arch-independent and arch-dependent objects. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpOgvho3G54k.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GNAT

of an 'O' bug (this, at least, should be in your grasp before you try to adopt a package :). Do you have a likely sponsor for your uploads, or are you in need of one? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07771/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GNAT

of an 'O' bug (this, at least, should be in your grasp before you try to adopt a package :). Do you have a likely sponsor for your uploads, or are you in need of one? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgplcciGgkEUA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Tools for parsing apache conf files (Was: dpkg-reconfigure hacking in postinst)

debconf is the right answer at all if you aren't in a position to parse the config losslessly. What changes will you be making to these config files that couldn't just as well be left to the admin to handle? Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07727/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: advocate location

should talk to DSA about getting the LDAP ACLs changed. In the meantime, the only protection of the information in the Debian directory is security through obscurity. For my part, I don't mind having my city published, and I think it's potentially helpful for non-DDs. Steve Langasek postmodern

Re: Tools for parsing apache conf files (Was: dpkg-reconfigure hacking in postinst)

debconf is the right answer at all if you aren't in a position to parse the config losslessly. What changes will you be making to these config files that couldn't just as well be left to the admin to handle? Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpQDEt6Z2jz6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: advocate location

should talk to DSA about getting the LDAP ACLs changed. In the meantime, the only protection of the information in the Debian directory is security through obscurity. For my part, I don't mind having my city published, and I think it's potentially helpful for non-DDs. Steve Langasek postmodern

Re: build failures compiler versions

to the matter, I would suggest talking with the toolchain maintainers about whether there's anything you could do to help get the gcc 3.x transition moving forward. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07687/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: build failures compiler versions

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:25:09AM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: You could just change the Architecture: field in the control file to not attempt to build on the broken arches, for now. Don't discriminate against architectures because of a temporary build failure. Steve Langasek postmodern

Re: build failures compiler versions

compiled with gcc-3.x. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07691/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: build failures compiler versions

name. If you keep the same package name and bump the upstream version, you would reset the Debian version to 1, giving you kdclabel_2.7-KDE3-1. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07693/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: build failures compiler versions

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:22:33PM -0500, Neil L. Roeth wrote: On Oct 30, Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The default compiler on alpha is still gcc 2.95, to the best of my knowledge. If the autobuilders are using 3.x, this is not reflected in the default package layout

Re: build failures compiler versions

to the matter, I would suggest talking with the toolchain maintainers about whether there's anything you could do to help get the gcc 3.x transition moving forward. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpbqFt5L0tXE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: build failures compiler versions

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:25:09AM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote: You could just change the Architecture: field in the control file to not attempt to build on the broken arches, for now. Don't discriminate against architectures because of a temporary build failure. Steve Langasek postmodern

Re: build failures compiler versions

compiled with gcc-3.x. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpFw8DrrxNG5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: build failures compiler versions

name. If you keep the same package name and bump the upstream version, you would reset the Debian version to 1, giving you kdclabel_2.7-KDE3-1. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpPo4MivZ9lS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: build failures compiler versions

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:22:33PM -0500, Neil L. Roeth wrote: On Oct 30, Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The default compiler on alpha is still gcc 2.95, to the best of my knowledge. If the autobuilders are using 3.x, this is not reflected in the default package layout

Re: advocate location

From the ldap-utils package. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpj1XA4X07dr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: library version equals to project version ?

In both cases, the number that's part of the package name should indicate how many times the ABI has changed. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07643/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: how to be sure, that /dev/cdrom exists?

(possibly with some /proc autodetection) if the user agrees to let you create the link. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07645/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: orig.tar.gz

, libc12_1.6+debian.0, libc12_1.6+debian.1), or you can include any subsequent modifications in your Debian diff. Your choice. If you expect to be making frequent changes to how much of upstream's code you're including, option 1 might easily reduce to a native package. Steve Langasek postmodern

Re: how to be sure, that /dev/cdrom exists?

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 10:14:50PM +0100, Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 11:07:07AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: I'm maintaining pbbuttonsd for PPC-Notebooks. I'm preparing the new upstream version and I stuck at this point, that the pbbuttonsd wants to have a link /dev

Re: library version equals to project version ?

In both cases, the number that's part of the package name should indicate how many times the ABI has changed. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpi5CThlQGd4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: how to be sure, that /dev/cdrom exists?

(possibly with some /proc autodetection) if the user agrees to let you create the link. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpV5W1YsbQ2u.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: orig.tar.gz

, libc12_1.6+debian.0, libc12_1.6+debian.1), or you can include any subsequent modifications in your Debian diff. Your choice. If you expect to be making frequent changes to how much of upstream's code you're including, option 1 might easily reduce to a native package. Steve Langasek postmodern

Re: how to be sure, that /dev/cdrom exists?

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 10:14:50PM +0100, Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 11:07:07AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: I'm maintaining pbbuttonsd for PPC-Notebooks. I'm preparing the new upstream version and I stuck at this point, that the pbbuttonsd wants to have a link /dev

Re: HELP!!! New Maint App Process

that one has many of the skills required to be a DD, but more is demanded of DDs than just raw skill. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07600/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HELP!!! New Maint App Process

to demonstrate that one has many of the skills required to be a DD, but more is demanded of DDs than just raw skill. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpmyIiuMdxfK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Build-failures

and ia64, where libc is versioned differently. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpFGgZJlHyZD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Build-failures

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 08:15:08PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: These are both dependency lines, not build-depends. You should *never* build-depend on libc6, as it is an essential package; [...] Minor nitpick: libc6 is not essential, only essential-de-facto, since

Re: inclusion of a debian dir in upstream src

/ directory upstream puts it elsewhere, where it doesn't conflict with official Debian work. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07293/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: inclusion of a debian dir in upstream src

/ directory upstream puts it elsewhere, where it doesn't conflict with official Debian work. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpxR25jtVysy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

that if it does work out of the box with MIT and not with Heimdal, you ought to build it for MIT (at least for now). Though I'm curious, why does it need anything other than the SASL module in order to support Kerberos? Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07241/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

that if it does work out of the box with MIT and not with Heimdal, you ought to build it for MIT (at least for now). Though I'm curious, why does it need anything other than the SASL module in order to support Kerberos? Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpOOpUhjhXpx.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Kerberos support for Cyrus: I need help

not sure I understand the former, and the latter seems a little fishy: the only bits of code that should need to know what Kerberos thinks are the canonical names are within the SASL module itself. shrug Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpf3avd6Tx3H.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Looking for information about finding sponsors.

in the Debian development process is considered a prerequisite for applying to become a DD. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg07209/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Looking for information about finding sponsors.

development process is considered a prerequisite for applying to become a DD. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpOuYIO9XLuR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: pam library (and dependancy) policies

as any. This is not policy, but it's the status quo; I can find at least 3 other PAM modules in Debian that handle this the same way. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg06929/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: pam library (and dependancy) policies

- by choice. What we build into the system is ours. I suppose you could argue that the admin *chose* to enable my PAM lib and so should understand the implications. Yes, that's what I would argue. :) Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg06931/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: pam library (and dependancy) policies

. This is not policy, but it's the status quo; I can find at least 3 other PAM modules in Debian that handle this the same way. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpM0xd5Nny7G.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: pam library (and dependancy) policies

- by choice. What we build into the system is ours. I suppose you could argue that the admin *chose* to enable my PAM lib and so should understand the implications. Yes, that's what I would argue. :) Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpU7A9yafYS1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: adding some lines into an existing conf file - without diff

maintainer has a plan for restructuring the PAM config files, making it possible to change the global configuration according to what modules are installed. In the meantime, you should leave it up to the administrator to configure his system. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpvQRt4yfxPa.pgp

Re: new debs, itp process

hasn't reviewed the file locations and permissions in the binary package, to ensure that they all comply with policy. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg06702/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: new debs, itp process

hasn't reviewed the file locations and permissions in the binary package, to ensure that they all comply with policy. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpmKrnA2NVDz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gpg passphrase and package building

information from the first signed file, so they cannot both be signed at the same time. The only way to type your passphrase only once is for your build scripts (e.g., dpkg-buildpackage) to store the passphrase in memory between invocations of gpg. This is generally regarded as a bad idea. Steve

Re: Evaluating variables in autoconf

this? I haven't done much shell or m4 programming, so this may be a stupid question. You're better off putting this in your Makefile, and passing it to the compiler via -DBASE_PATH=\$datadir\. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg06691/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Evaluating variables in autoconf

this? I haven't done much shell or m4 programming, so this may be a stupid question. You're better off putting this in your Makefile, and passing it to the compiler via -DBASE_PATH=\$datadir\. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpZA5cJsvHrC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gpg passphrase and package building

information from the first signed file, so they cannot both be signed at the same time. The only way to type your passphrase only once is for your build scripts (e.g., dpkg-buildpackage) to store the passphrase in memory between invocations of gpg. This is generally regarded as a bad idea. Steve

Re: Prospective developer looking for an advocate

to schedule anything concrete. If you ever make this run on land, you might pass close enough to me (or another DD) to make a physical meeting possible. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg06637/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Prospective developer looking for an advocate

to schedule anything concrete. If you ever make this run on land, you might pass close enough to me (or another DD) to make a physical meeting possible. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpzOSPbGfRuJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Checking for installed package-alternative in a wrapper-skript

features that are going to be used is always the safest solution -- and often the most efficient. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer msg06466/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Checking for installed package-alternative in a wrapper-skript

features that are going to be used is always the safest solution -- and often the most efficient. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpIpnwPlpc53.pgp Description: PGP signature

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