Re: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded]

2006-01-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Bas Wijnen wrote: Of course I know the classical argument against this: To build a program, you should only need to do ./configure;make;make install. configure is the platform independant script, autoconf should only be used by upstream. Well, that's an stupid argument

Re: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded]

2006-01-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Russ Allbery wrote: The problem is, in a nutshell, this doesn't actually work reliably. If It does inside Debian (you can explicitly choose a given version, and upgrade to the next only after some testing). It *mostly* does among minor versions of the autotools, if

Re: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded]

2006-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Russ Allbery wrote: The problem is, in a nutshell, this doesn't actually work reliably. If It does inside Debian (you can explicitly choose a given version, and upgrade to the next only after some testing). It

Re: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded]

2006-01-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: There are *always* libraries in a state of transition in Debian. Using the Debian libtool means limiting those transitions to packages which have a valid reason for depending on the transitioning library, instead of giving us transitions that ripple

Re: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded]

2006-01-14 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 08:45:07AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: There are *always* libraries in a state of transition in Debian. Using the Debian libtool means limiting those transitions to packages which have a valid reason for

Re: relibtoolizing when necessary (was: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded])

2006-01-14 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Florian Ernst [Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:52:26 +0100]: I gave some pointers on relibtoolizing to my sponsees after vorlon called for improved library handling as mentioned in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/11/msg00016.html. Especially KDE applications seem to be prone to

Re: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded]

2006-01-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Bas Wijnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I completelely agree. When I read Steve's e-mail about libtool (referenced earlier in this thread), I was again confirmed in my position (although I think Steve doesn't agree with it) that running the autotools (and that includes libtoolize) from

Re: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded]

2006-01-13 Thread Christoph Haas
On Friday 13 January 2006 19:40, Claudio Moratti wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 15:48, Christoph Haas wrote: debian/patches: [QUESTION/HINT] You are changing a whole lot of the autoconf parts. Does this have to do with some transitions going on? Usually just the config.guess and

relibtoolizing when necessary (was: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded])

2006-01-13 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello *, On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 09:10:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 19:40, Claudio Moratti wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 15:48, Christoph Haas wrote: debian/patches: [QUESTION/HINT] You are changing a whole lot of the autoconf parts. Does this have

Re: relibtoolizing when necessary (was: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded])

2006-01-13 Thread Claudio Moratti
On Friday 13 January 2006 21:52, Florian Ernst wrote: Hello *, On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 09:10:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote: [cut] Of course, maintainers shouldn't relibtoolize just for the sake of it, but sometimes it's truly worth the effort. HTH, Flo The situation was the same for

Re: relibtoolizing when necessary (was: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded])

2006-01-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Florian Ernst wrote: I thought I understood at least the reason to include diffs for a config.guess and config.sub. But IMHO relibtooling is only needed when certain libraries are in a state of transitions. Could you (or Florian (or autotools dev maintainer hat on

Re: RFS: knmap -- Kde interface to nmap [uploaded]

2006-01-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 09:10:32PM +0100, Christoph Haas wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 19:40, Claudio Moratti wrote: On Friday 13 January 2006 15:48, Christoph Haas wrote: debian/patches: [QUESTION/HINT] You are changing a whole lot of the autoconf parts. Does this have to do with