Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages (was: why?)

2009-08-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-08-19, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: For example, I would be very reluctant to sponsor a first package of a person that was a new library without any application using it, whereas a interesting kde application might easier catch my

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages

2009-08-19 Thread Harry Rickards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2009-08-19, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: For example, I would be very reluctant to sponsor a first package of a person that was a new library without any application

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages (was: why?)

2009-08-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:11:12AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: For example, I would be very reluctant to sponsor a first package of a person that was a new library without any application using it, whereas a interesting kde application might easier catch

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages

2009-08-19 Thread Ben Finney
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: On 2009-08-19, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: That's interesting, thank you for that perspective. What do you propose, then, for a maintainer who wants to get a new package into Debian, but that package requires one or more

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages

2009-08-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-08-19, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: On 2009-08-19, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: That's interesting, thank you for that perspective. What do you propose, then, for a maintainer who wants to get a new package into

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages

2009-08-19 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi Dne Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:42:38 +1000 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au napsal(a): I obviously wasn't clear on this point: The library package is prepared *first*, to provide functionality needed by the dependent package. They're not ready for sponsorship together. What advice then?

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages

2009-08-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:42:38PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: On 2009-08-19, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: That's interesting, thank you for that perspective. What do you propose, then, for a maintainer who wants to get a new package

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages

2009-08-19 Thread Ben Finney
Matthew Palmer mpal...@debian.org writes: Make an RFS if you like, but don't get all bent out of shape and chuck a hissy fit on d-mentors if nobody does anything about it (because it's a library package -- hard to do right, and utterly pointless without an application to go with it). I think

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages

2009-08-19 Thread Matt Trudel
Le jeudi 20 août 2009 à 09:01 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit : I think part of the gap in understanding here may be that everyone is assuming that “library package” necessarily means a C-language library package. Does this qualitative “hard to do right” apply when the library package is implemented

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages

2009-08-19 Thread George Danchev
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:42:38PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: On 2009-08-19, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: That's interesting, thank you for that perspective. What do you propose, then, for a maintainer who wants to get a new

Requests to sponsor new library packages (was: why?)

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Finney
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: For example, I would be very reluctant to sponsor a first package of a person that was a new library without any application using it, whereas a interesting kde application might easier catch my eye. That's interesting, thank you for that perspective.

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages (was: why?)

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:11:12AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes: For example, I would be very reluctant to sponsor a first package of a person that was a new library without any application using it, whereas a interesting kde application might easier

Re: Requests to sponsor new library packages (was: why?)

2009-08-18 Thread Paul Wise
2009/8/19 Peter Pentchev r...@ringlet.net: I've had to do this with Perl modules once - I wanted to package a particular module, but it had a chain of dependencies that were not packaged yet.  What I did was file a series of ITP bugs, stating my intentions clearly - first for the target