Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-04 Thread Craig Small
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:38:33PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz.

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-04 Thread Craig Small
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:38:33PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz.

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-03 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:38:33PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make unpacks the

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-03 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:38:33PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make unpacks the

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz. Why would dh_make go out of its way to violate best practices like

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: As an aside I wonder how well SE-Linux, or the other improved security patches handle installation issues? I know that by installing a random package you're effectively giving the package maintainer root upon your box. I'd imagine that a package installation

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz. Why would dh_make go out of its way to violate best practices like

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: As an aside I wonder how well SE-Linux, or the other improved security patches handle installation issues? I know that by installing a random package you're effectively giving the package maintainer root upon your box. I'd imagine that a package installation

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:42:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: You should really ask Russell Coker on -devel. There may well be a policy to limit postinst scripts to the things that postinst scripts typically do. Thanks I shall. I was thinking was that a postinst script, or package

Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, here are some of my tips when packaging unofficial software as .debs. Perhaps its useful for someone :) Packaging tips for unofficial packages == Maintainer email - You can set the DEBEMAIL

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hi, here are some of my tips when packaging unofficial software as .debs. Perhaps its useful for someone :) [SNIP] If there is already an official package eg with version 1.1-4, then use

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2003-02-28 at 18:08, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: I would also add something about dependencies. Be sure to build always againt the main debian archive and in the worst case with pkgs that are in your external archive of which you have control of. This should atleast ensure a lower

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:33:47PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Bug reports --- The standard tool for reporting bugs is reportbug. Your package should have: File /usr/share/bug/mypackage/control: Send-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.developers for

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Henning Moll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Thanks for you tips! But still some questions remain: On Friday 28 February 2003 16:33, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Native Package or not? -- Short answer: don't make a native package. Can you explain 'native package'? Did you mean

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:02:05PM +0100, Michel Dnzer wrote: I have found pbuilder to be a great way to avoid this as well as other build time side effects. I tested it several weeks ago and it did not work for me. Perhaps I should give it another

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: BTW never forget that external archive can be as dangerous as usefull. Warn ALWAYS the user that is not an official repository and don't use it only for your own glory.. help the official maintainer with what it will come

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:57:18PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:02:05PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: I have found pbuilder to be a great way to avoid this as well as other build time side effects. I tested it

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:19:51PM +0100, Henning Moll wrote: In addition i have some questions to the Depends section in debian/control: ${shlibs:Depends} is a nice feature, but i think for many packages/libraries it is way to strict, because it's always using

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Steve Kemp wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: BTW never forget that external archive can be as dangerous as usefull. Warn ALWAYS the user that is not an official repository and don't use it only for your own glory.. help the

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Fre, 2003-02-28 at 18:08, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: I would also add something about dependencies. Be sure to build always againt the main debian archive and in the worst case with pkgs that are in your external archive of which you have

Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, here are some of my tips when packaging unofficial software as .debs. Perhaps its useful for someone :) Packaging tips for unofficial packages == Maintainer email - You can set the DEBEMAIL

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Hi, here are some of my tips when packaging unofficial software as .debs. Perhaps its useful for someone :) [SNIP] If there is already an official package eg with version 1.1-4, then use

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2003-02-28 at 18:08, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: I would also add something about dependencies. Be sure to build always againt the main debian archive and in the worst case with pkgs that are in your external archive of which you have control of. This should atleast ensure a lower

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:33:47PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Bug reports --- The standard tool for reporting bugs is reportbug. Your package should have: File /usr/share/bug/mypackage/control: Send-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.developers for

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Henning Moll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Thanks for you tips! But still some questions remain: On Friday 28 February 2003 16:33, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Native Package or not? -- Short answer: don't make a native package. Can you explain 'native package'? Did you mean

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:02:05PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: I have found pbuilder to be a great way to avoid this as well as other build time side effects. I tested it several weeks ago and it did not work for me. Perhaps I should give it another

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: BTW never forget that external archive can be as dangerous as usefull. Warn ALWAYS the user that is not an official repository and don't use it only for your own glory.. help the official maintainer with what it will come

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:57:18PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:02:05PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: I have found pbuilder to be a great way to avoid this as well as other build time side effects. I tested it

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:19:51PM +0100, Henning Moll wrote: Thanks for you tips! But still some questions remain: On Friday 28 February 2003 16:33, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: Native Package or not? -- Short answer: don't

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:19:51PM +0100, Henning Moll wrote: In addition i have some questions to the Depends section in debian/control: ${shlibs:Depends} is a nice feature, but i think for many packages/libraries it is way to strict, because it's always using

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Steve Kemp wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: BTW never forget that external archive can be as dangerous as usefull. Warn ALWAYS the user that is not an official repository and don't use it only for your own glory.. help the

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Fre, 2003-02-28 at 18:08, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: I would also add something about dependencies. Be sure to build always againt the main debian archive and in the worst case with pkgs that are in your external archive of which you have