On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 12:31:55AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If it takes a year to complete my application, I will quit. I have a number
of other projects I'd like to do - Project Gutenberg, GCC, several free
software projects of my own.
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 09:52:51AM +0100, Fredrik Steen wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:01:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| You must have heard many times by now that Debian is a volunteer effort, and
| things are done on a time-available basis.
|
| Of course we all know this. But
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:47:21PM -1000, Brian Russo wrote:
comments inline.
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 12:16:56PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:36:50 -0600, "Christian T. Steigies" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 05:54:31PM +0100, T.Pospisek's
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 12:31:55AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If it takes a year to complete my application, I will quit. I have a number
of other projects I'd like to do - Project Gutenberg, GCC, several free
software projects of my own.
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 09:52:51AM +0100, Fredrik Steen wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:01:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| You must have heard many times by now that Debian is a volunteer effort,
and
| things are done on a time-available basis.
|
| Of course we all know this.
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:47:21PM -1000, Brian Russo wrote:
comments inline.
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 12:16:56PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:36:50 -0600, Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 05:54:31PM +0100, T.Pospisek's
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:01:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| You must have heard many times by now that Debian is a volunteer effort, and
| things are done on a time-available basis.
|
| Of course we all know this. But the question is really one of bottlenecking,
| not of not enough
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 09:52:51AM +0100, Fredrik Steen wrote:
I have sent 3 mails to Mr Akumira with no response. Anyone know where he is?
Yep, Anand has been busy organising the .au linux conference
linux.conf.au. (See http://linux.conf.au for details). Starts
in a couple of days.
Hopefully
On Sunday 14 January 2001 20:32, Eric Dorland wrote:
Ok... well, since no one seems too bothered by this, I guess it's not a
problem. But does anyone know if the DAM has some procedure for picking
people out of the queue, or is it all quite willy-nilly?
I would say the DAM queue is a full
On Sunday 14 January 2001 20:32, Eric Dorland wrote:
Ok... well, since no one seems too bothered by this, I guess it's not a
problem. But does anyone know if the DAM has some procedure for picking
people out of the queue, or is it all quite willy-nilly?
I would say the DAM queue is a full
At Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:31:55 +0100 (CET), Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please explain which work was impossible for you because you aren't
a
developer until now? Do you have a personal problem with my sponsorship
for your packages or what other work is impossible for you without a
Debian
Hi Brian,
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:47:21PM -1000, Brian Russo wrote:
While a year is long, this is by no means the most common, the mode of length
(in days) for 'awaiting DAM approval' is a pitiful 4 days.
Yes, I asked when it is supposed to happen because I'd thought that
awaiting DAM
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 12:45:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
Hi Brian,
'lo
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:47:21PM -1000, Brian Russo wrote:
While a year is long, this is by no means the most common, the mode of length
(in days) for 'awaiting DAM approval' is a pitiful 4 days.
Yes, I asked
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 08:18:31AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:10:36PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
Does this mean I can never become a maintainer? I believe that
I have demonstrated my knowledge of debian's policy and skills with
the packages that I've
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 02:53:05PM -0500, Eric Dorland wrote:
I've actually just taken a look at the applicants list
http://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php and it appears that today the DAM has
apprently started creating accounts again today. Unfortunately, the six
lucky people have apparently
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:25:39PM +0100, Ove Kaaven wrote:
How does DAM approval occur?
When James has an opportunity. He's been unable to do so recently for
personal reasons but will be back on track soon. (Details were posted
to -private.)
But that doesn't help wondering
At Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:31:55 +0100 (CET), Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please explain which work was impossible for you because you aren't
a
developer until now? Do you have a personal problem with my sponsorship
for your packages or what other work is impossible for you without a
Debian
Hi Brian,
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:47:21PM -1000, Brian Russo wrote:
While a year is long, this is by no means the most common, the mode of length
(in days) for 'awaiting DAM approval' is a pitiful 4 days.
Yes, I asked when it is supposed to happen because I'd thought that
awaiting DAM
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 12:45:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
Hi Brian,
'lo
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:47:21PM -1000, Brian Russo wrote:
While a year is long, this is by no means the most common, the mode of
length
(in days) for 'awaiting DAM approval' is a pitiful 4 days.
Yes, I asked
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 08:18:31AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:10:36PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
Does this mean I can never become a maintainer? I believe that
I have demonstrated my knowledge of debian's policy and skills with
the packages that I've
I've actually just taken a look at the applicants list
http://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php and it appears that today the DAM has
apprently started creating accounts again today. Unfortunately, the six
lucky people have apparently jumped the queue, and been rushed through
the process, since they were
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 02:53:05PM -0500, Eric Dorland wrote:
I've actually just taken a look at the applicants list
http://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php and it appears that today the DAM has
apprently started creating accounts again today. Unfortunately, the six
lucky people have apparently jumped
On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Eric Dorland wrote:
I've actually just taken a look at the applicants list
http://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php and it appears that today the DAM has
apprently started creating accounts again today. Unfortunately, the six
lucky people have apparently jumped the queue, and
I didn't realise there were a few more people, because the new
maintainer list is sorted by application date, not DAM approval date. I'
not blaming anyone who was approved, I'm just curious how this happened?
Has tbm been made DAM?
* Ove Kaaven ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2001,
* Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010113 16:57]:
Has tbm been made DAM?
No.
--
Martin Michlmayr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:25:39PM +0100, Ove Kaaven wrote:
How does DAM approval occur?
When James has an opportunity. He's been unable to do so recently for
personal reasons but will be back on track soon. (Details were posted
to -private.)
But that doesn't help wondering people
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 09:13:55PM +0100, Karl Soderstrom wrote:
I'm one of the lucky ones, so I'm really happy, but I must agree with you
that it seems pretty unfair to the guys approved by their AMs months
ago. Maybe their AMs didn't do good reports of them? I don't know, but the
fact
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 09:33:11AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
Hi,
It's already been a month and counting for DAM approval of my application.
I'd like to close some bugs with high severity on my packages, but
the fact that I don't have a debian account effectively prevents me
from
It's already been a month and counting for DAM approval of my application.
I'd like to close some bugs with high severity on my packages, but
the fact that I don't have a debian account effectively prevents me
from doing so because it's a difficult thing to get every upload
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 08:18:31AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
You have not yet proven your patience, which is next in the DAM process.
I'd thought that waiting for more than a year to become a maintainer
required some patience, but thanks anyway for the tip :)
I've been asking this
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 12:29:06PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Eray Ozkural (exa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010112 09:33]:
the fact that I don't have a debian account effectively prevents me
from doing so because it's a difficult thing to get every upload sponsored.
I'm sure someone here
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
You have not yet proven your patience, which is next in the DAM process.
You have read Kafka, haven't you? I don't remember whether the guards
were saying something about Debian being behind those closed doors?
Just another DAMned waiting at
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Eray Ozkural wrote:
Does this mean I can never become a maintainer?
ironicJust wait here/ironic
*t
Tomas Pospisek
SourcePole - Linux Open Source Solutions
I am convinced the DAM approval is this kind of bureaucratical decision which
can not improve Debian work's quality of any maintaners (it means unofficial
maintaners in this case). Personally I have stopped to investigate reasons of
this situation and rules which are neccesary to
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
And to repeat what many people said, you can help debian without having an
account, you can fix bugs, send in patches (not bugreports, but fixes...),
trace down problems, even get sponsored uploads. What more do you need to
help improve
You want to start a flamewar before you are a dd? Thats neat, but I don't
take it.
I don't think anyone wants to start a flamewar, but there is a middle
ground between "just wait" and "the new maintainer process is hopeless".
If James is unable to keep up with the demands of processing
At Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:36:50 -0600, "Christian T. Steigies" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 05:54:31PM +0100, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
You want to start a flamewar before you are a dd? Thats neat, but I
don't take it.
PS: Bah, what is a year of waiting in a human
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:10:36PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:03:55PM -, Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
I am convinced the DAM approval is this kind of bureaucratical decision
which can not improve Debian work's quality of any maintaners (it means
unofficial
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If it takes a year to complete my application, I will quit. I have a number
of other projects I'd like to do - Project Gutenberg, GCC, several free
software projects of my own. It's not worth hanging around a year for a
project to accept me as
You must have heard many times by now that Debian is a volunteer effort, and
things are done on a time-available basis.
Of course we all know this. But the question is really one of bottlenecking,
not of not enough available time of Debian as a whole.
The whole reason that Debian exists (IMO)
comments inline.
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 12:16:56PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:36:50 -0600, "Christian T. Steigies" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 05:54:31PM +0100, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
You want to start a flamewar before you are a dd?
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 09:23:57AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:03:58PM +0100, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
You have not yet proven your patience, which is next in the DAM process.
You have read
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
What bothers me most about the delays in the NM queue are their
capriciousness. I got through the process relatively quickly (about three
months or so, a fair time), but others have no such luck. And it is luck,
not [always] lack trying on
If an AM becomes unable to
process an applicant within a reasonable reasonable response time (say
two weeks of overhead beyond delays the fault of the applicant) then the
applicant should be returned to the AM queue. It's not right that one AM
Why is it a problem if an applicant isn't
Hi,
It's already been a month and counting for DAM approval of my application.
I'd like to close some bugs with high severity on my packages, but
the fact that I don't have a debian account effectively prevents me
from doing so because it's a difficult thing to get every upload sponsored.
How
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 09:33:11AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
Hi,
It's already been a month and counting for DAM approval of my application.
I'd like to close some bugs with high severity on my packages, but
the fact that I don't have a debian account effectively prevents me
from
Hi Julian,
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 11:40:38AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
When James has an opportunity. He's been unable to do so recently for
personal reasons but will be back on track soon. (Details were posted
to -private.)
Thanks for the information. I had been wondering why there
* Eray Ozkural (exa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010112 09:33]:
the fact that I don't have a debian account effectively prevents me
from doing so because it's a difficult thing to get every upload sponsored.
I'm sure someone here would be willing to sponsor your upload to fix your
RC bug.
--
Martin
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 09:33:11AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
Hi,
It's already been a month and counting for DAM approval of my application.
I'd like to close some bugs with high severity on my packages, but
the fact that I don't have a
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:25:39PM +0100, Ove Kaaven wrote:
But that doesn't help wondering people very much, we only get subscribed
to debian-private *after* DAM approval, right? (And I didn't see any
archive...)
There is an archive of debian-private available to maintainers.
For obvious
It's already been a month and counting for DAM approval of my application.
I'd like to close some bugs with high severity on my packages, but
the fact that I don't have a debian account effectively prevents me
from doing so because it's a difficult thing to get every upload
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:03:55PM -, Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
I am convinced the DAM approval is this kind of bureaucratical decision which
can not improve Debian work's quality of any maintaners (it means unofficial
maintaners in this case). Personally I have stopped to investigate
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:10:36PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
Does this mean I can never become a maintainer? I believe that
I have demonstrated my knowledge of debian's policy and skills with
the packages that I've done.
You have not yet proven your patience, which is next in the DAM process.
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 08:18:31AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
You have not yet proven your patience, which is next in the DAM process.
I'd thought that waiting for more than a year to become a maintainer
required some patience, but thanks anyway for the tip :)
I've been asking this
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 12:29:06PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Eray Ozkural (exa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010112 09:33]:
the fact that I don't have a debian account effectively prevents me
from doing so because it's a difficult thing to get every upload sponsored.
I'm sure someone here
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
You have not yet proven your patience, which is next in the DAM process.
You have read Kafka, haven't you? I don't remember whether the guards
were saying something about Debian being behind those closed doors?
Just another DAMned waiting at
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Eray Ozkural wrote:
Does this mean I can never become a maintainer?
ironicJust wait here/ironic
*t
Tomas Pospisek
SourcePole - Linux Open Source Solutions
I am convinced the DAM approval is this kind of bureaucratical decision
which
can not improve Debian work's quality of any maintaners (it means unofficial
maintaners in this case). Personally I have stopped to investigate reasons
of
this situation and rules which are neccesary to
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:03:58PM +0100, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
You have not yet proven your patience, which is next in the DAM process.
You have read Kafka, haven't you? I don't remember whether the guards
A little.
were saying
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
And to repeat what many people said, you can help debian without having an
account, you can fix bugs, send in patches (not bugreports, but fixes...),
trace down problems, even get sponsored uploads. What more do you need to
help improve
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 05:54:31PM +0100, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
Either being an official Debian developper has any sense or not. If it's
the latter then Debian better stop wasting time with this theatre *now*.
If it does make sense to be a Debian developper (I sure do hope it does!)
You want to start a flamewar before you are a dd? Thats neat, but I don't
take it.
I don't think anyone wants to start a flamewar, but there is a middle
ground between just wait and the new maintainer process is hopeless.
If James is unable to keep up with the demands of processing applicants,
At Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:36:50 -0600, Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 05:54:31PM +0100, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
You want to start a flamewar before you are a dd? Thats neat, but I
don't take it.
PS: Bah, what is a year of waiting in a human being's
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:10:36PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:03:55PM -, Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
I am convinced the DAM approval is this kind of bureaucratical decision
which can not improve Debian work's quality of any maintaners (it means
unofficial
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If it takes a year to complete my application, I will quit. I have a number
of other projects I'd like to do - Project Gutenberg, GCC, several free
software projects of my own. It's not worth hanging around a year for a
project to accept me as
You must have heard many times by now that Debian is a volunteer effort, and
things are done on a time-available basis.
Of course we all know this. But the question is really one of bottlenecking,
not of not enough available time of Debian as a whole.
The whole reason that Debian exists (IMO)
comments inline.
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 12:16:56PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:36:50 -0600, Christian T. Steigies [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 05:54:31PM +0100, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
You want to start a flamewar before you are a dd?
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 09:23:57AM -0600, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:03:58PM +0100, T.Pospisek's MailLists wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
You have not yet proven your patience, which is next in the DAM process.
You have read
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
What bothers me most about the delays in the NM queue are their
capriciousness. I got through the process relatively quickly (about three
months or so, a fair time), but others have no such luck. And it is luck,
not [always] lack trying on
If an AM becomes unable to
process an applicant within a reasonable reasonable response time (say
two weeks of overhead beyond delays the fault of the applicant) then the
applicant should be returned to the AM queue. It's not right that one AM
Why is it a problem if an applicant isn't
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