Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-27 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 02:10 +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: Another precedent (and quite similar, since it's also an application for a mobile phone, just symbian instead of java) is gnapplet.sis, shipped in gammu. AFAICS the source package contains the source for gnapplet but it's not built

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-27 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:30:35 +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: AFAICS the source package contains the source for gnapplet but it's not built but the pre-compiled .sis is installed into /usr/share/doc/gammu/symbian/. I see. And gammu is in main? Yes, that's what `apt-cache policy gammu' tells

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-27 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 14:43 +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:30:35 +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: AFAICS the source package contains the source for gnapplet but it's not built but the pre-compiled .sis is installed into /usr/share/doc/gammu/symbian/. I see. And

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-27 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:54:12 +, Chow Loong Jin wrote: I suppose that's ok, but I'd check with the ftp-masters before uploading. Alright, who should I contact? ftpmas...@debian.org? Yes, that's the official address according to http://www.debian.org/intro/organization Cheers, gregor

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-27 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
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distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Chow Loong Jin
Hi all, I've recently encountered an issue while packaging remuco (Bug #416379). Remuco is a duplex remote control application (mobile phones = media players). The mobile phone portion is written in Java, whereas the portion that runs on the media player computer is written in Python. For the

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 26 mars 09 à 17:29, Chow Loong Jin a écrit : [...] The problem begins here: The Java portion has a build-dependency on Sun Microsystem's WTK[1], and it is not free[2]. However, this is just a build dependency, and not a runtime dependency. In fact, the .jar isn't even supposed to run

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 18:15 +0100, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Hi, you could provide the .jar in non-free, and the DFSG free part which actually runs on the host could Suggest this non-free package. You need to provide a mean to upload it to the cellphone from the Debian box. Then of

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 01785aaa-09b5-4cff-826b-78f31bd27...@free.fr, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Distributing non-DFSG-free software in main, even if it [...] can be considered data... All software can be considered data. That's the beauty of the Turing machine abstraction and the von realization. -- Boyd Stephen

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Frank Loeffler
Hi, On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:29:06AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: The problem begins here: The Java portion has a build-dependency on Sun Microsystem's WTK[1], and it is not free[2]. Just to make sure, what exactly is not free? a) the Java portion (and the Sun Microsystem's WTK) b) only the

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Chow Loong Jin hyper...@gmail.com writes: Regarding the DFSG-compliance of this .jar, I've looked through the DFSG, and don't see where this could be a problem. DFSG mainly prohibits distribution of binaries without sources. This is a binary with the source, but cannot be compiled due to a

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 10:53 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: That would mean it should go into contrib, which is for DFSG-free things that can't be built or used without non-free bits. I'm actually considering using a postinst script to tell the user that there is a .jar that they need to download

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Chow Loong Jin hyper...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 10:53 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: That would mean it should go into contrib, which is for DFSG-free things that can't be built or used without non-free bits. I'm actually considering using a postinst script to tell the user that

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-26 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:37:50 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I'd personally tend to say that, doing the above and assuming my characterization is correct, it would be okay to put that in main. Another precedent (and quite similar, since it's also an application for a mobile phone, just symbian