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care if it appears and disappears.
You have to do that for some things with C++, since there are places where
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Thomas Weber twe...@debian.org writes:
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If it's a private symbol not intended to be used by clients and that
wouldn't naturally be used by clients, you can mark it optional in the
symbols file (symbol tag optional
the ViewVC URI, which I didn't realize
would work but which does seem to be versioned (even though Lintian
doesn't know about it).
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the point at which most mistakes are made).
The difference for mentors is that the uploaders are not (yet) Debian
project members and are not guaranteed to be trained in our licensing
policies, and have not agreed to follow our rules.
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For the main archive, the NEW check I think is best thought of as a
spot check to ensure maintainers are doing their jobs. The real
responsibility of not uploading non-redistributable
being somewhat paranoid about things that get
the official imprimatur of the project. And I'm certainly not a lawyer
and this is just my guess.
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operating systems and is not actually
a good idea unless all of the libraries the package uses support a
facility like pkgconfig (which is something that upstream is often not in
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The current plan is to release debian-policy with the 1.0 version of this
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What should be the default target for debian/rules ?
Whatever you want, basically. None of the standard tools ever invoke it
with the default target, so it's up to the discretion of the maintainer.
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architectures on which valgrind is required, even if you also
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http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/notes/debian/git.html
Where were you 2 years ago when I first asked about how to use git when
being both upstream and debian maintainer? :)
Posting that site to Planet Debian
realized that I really needed a
Debian-specific patch. It works, but quilt is really another VCS, and I
don't like layering one VCS on top of another. VCS management is too
complicated already! :)
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would be correct. Will try that when I find the time to recreate the
repository.
Yes, that would work if you want to preserve the history. But since
nothing other than pristine-tar is going to look at the upstream branch,
I'm not sure I'd bother.
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Also the wrong version for an NMU of a new upstream release (should be
-0.1).
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Yup, this is what the OpenLDAP packages do for exactly this use case.
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Malte Forkel malte.for...@berlin.de writes:
Am 25.03.2012 19:21, schrieb Russ Allbery:
Arno Töll deb...@toell.net writes:
As another alternative which comes me in mind is a pseudo-shared
library. You would put the common functions into
debian/maintscripts-common and copy its contents
notifications for all the individual commits. I'm not sure why, but I'm
not complaining.
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described in the last paragraph there is now supported natively by the
latest git-buildpackage (although I haven't had a chance to test yet).
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Java, which provides a lot of tools to try to get it right, doesn't offer
a good ABI versioning system, so if you do have to change the ABI, there
isn't a good way of handling the transition.)
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algorithm to warrant yet another package?
apg uses Morrie Gasser's algorithm from A Random Word Generator For
Pronounceable Passwords (National Technical Information Service (NTIS)
AD-A-017676).
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for a
change that was made in an earlier version, I fix it like any other bug:
correct the changelog for that version, and add a note in the changelog
for the most recent version that I fixed the documentation bug.
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entirety. There will be some remnant of non-multi-arch library packages
in the wheezy release.
Then all other packages must be removed from testing before freeze, right?
No.
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of multiple versions of the library is that the library MUST use symbol
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be fixed by just
deleting the .PD 0 command (or at least moving it down to the formatting
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* The formatting of the man page isn't great. There are a few places that
seem to have spurious line breaks (the --append documentation, for
example), and it's traditional to have a blank line between each option
documented in OPTIONS. The second
the
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will be considered wrong by consensus, but as you mention, I think it's a
common interpretation by other packagers of GNU software.
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applying the same standards to
sponsoring as one would generally apply to any other package in the
archive; I think this is just a disagreement over what the existing Policy
text means. Now that I've seen this thread, I can certainly see where
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Absolutely.
And I'm sorry for my tone in some of my earlier messages. I had a really
obnoxious week and didn't do a very good job of keeping that out of my
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Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes:
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:54:10AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes:
That authors are not the same as copyright holders is simply a
fact regardless of what debian-policy states. For example, the
programmer who wrote some
for the
purposes of identification. The only difference is that it's obvious
that the former is a pseudonym :)
For the record, here's the actual policy for DDs:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2009/07/msg00044.html
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Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes:
It was. But then Russ Allbery noted some oddities! :-) I have
addressed those issues with a new package turn. Here is the latest
and greatest:
http://www.proulx.com/~bob/debian/pool/sid/main/time/2012-06-24/time_1.7-24.dsc
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Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org writes:
thanks for pinging me. I saw others taking over the additional reviews
of time, so I'm fine with them sponsoring it.
Thanks, Sandro!
Bob, I've uploaded the latest version. Thank you for your work!
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On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 07:53:04PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
It would indeed be best if everything possible was documented, but very
few people volunteer to do the work to drive changes to the
documentation through to completion
the wrong design to me.
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that shared stuff between the MySQL packages.
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in Europe either. There is some precendent for doing
something similar to what you're doing (see readline/editline).
Of course, even if what you're doing is perfectly legal, that doesn't
prevent someone from suing you anyway.
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ever previously required.
Unfortunately, there is not good documentation of exactly what's required
in copyright files. There are a lot of open bugs against Policy about
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that by overriding dh_autoreconf and running:
dh_autoreconf -- autoconf
instead of its default action. That should be safe, since the package
doesn't use automake or libtool either, so the other things that
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shared object version.
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options. For some reason that I've
not been able to figure out, PIE causes some really weird problems in some
applications.
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of merging the branch but in the sense of
reimporting it, right? At least I don't see an git-import-orig option
which allows upstream-source to be a git branch.
git-import-orig --upstream-vcs-tag. It's great. :) I use it for all my
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to the sorting problem with upstream minor versions, since
+dfsg is otherwise equivalent.
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before going too far down this path.
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one. There are huge false positive problems with the tag, which is why
it's still experimental.
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Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes:
* Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [121102 19:29]:
I'm starting to think that we should drop this tag entirely. There are
a lot of legitimate reasons why shared libraries call exit(), plus
there are legitimate reasons why shared library source includes
the *.dsc files. The
devscripts package has an nmudiff script that automates much of this
procedure.
(I'm listed as a comaintainer for openldap but haven't had any time to
work on the package for quite some time, unfortunately. I should really
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as a source package header in debian/control
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are publicly archived (including the email address of the
submitter).
Detected character set: UTF-8
Please change your locale if this is incorrect.
Using 'Russ Allbery r...@debian.org' as your from address.
Getting status for svnlog...
Checking for newer versions at madison...
Will use mailto
this issue. It may need a bug against doxygen, though (and
possibly some help for the Doxygen maintainer).
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in the package file list.
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Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
The first thing to double-check is whether you have a UTF-8 locale
installed. If you don't, that may be confusing man.
I'm confused by the related discussion (on ‘debian-devel’, I think) of
having a UTF-8
Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 04:43:28PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
echo 'locales locales/locales_to_be_generated multiselect en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8'
\
| debconf-set-selections
aptitude install locales
I thought manual configuration of build environment should
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Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:50:23AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Absent that, we're considering adding some sort of ugly hack to Lintian
to force the locales package to generate a UTF-8 locale if one isn't
already available. Unfortunately, there's
place I looked. It is mentioned,
but not defined, in environ(7). Thank you!
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Unicode quotes?
Use troff to render the man page into PostScript instead of using nroff to
view it. I don't believe nroff converts double quotes.
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Nicolas Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com writes:
Russ Allbery wrote:
Nicolas Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com writes:
What about double quotes?
quilt's manpage renders like this in the man viewer: ``pushed on the
stack''
I looked at the source and the .1 file has exactly those
to either “” or depending on the locale.
Yeah, that's a groff-specific feature. I suspect they won't render
properly on, for instance, Solaris. (\[xx] is a groff extension to the
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Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes:
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All of the packages for which I'm both upstream and the Debian packager
have no traditional ChangeLog file, only NEWS, and install the upstream
NEWS file as /usr/share/doc/package/changelog.gz.
Perhaps
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
There's an open Policy bug about this, which is where it should probably
be discussed. When packaging other people's software, I install the
upstream ChangeLog as changelog.gz and NEWS
to create a source package to move into the build chroot.
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Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
The basic problem is that while there's potentially some use to the
idea of separating out architecture-independent build requirements,
Lintian wasn't really checking that. In order
the
arch-independent ones? Or even more simply, just designate one
architecture (i386 perhaps) to keep all the results of the build including
the arch-independent packages?
That's what I assume was going to happen, which unfortunately doesn't
imply fixing any of the problems you note.
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# Run the actual program with our arguments.
echo See the libtool documentation for more information. 12
That looks like you didn't install the gifinfo binary but instead
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that was uploaded
to the archive, or what happened with the last tag.
Can somebody tell me why lintian.d.o is reporting warnings I don't get
local?
aptitude download -t unstable aiccu followed by running lintian on the
package in the archive produces the same tags as what lintian.d.o shows.
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(\[xx] is a groff extension to the language.)
Is \(lq portable? It does the same thing.
I'm not sure. It's not one of the documented special characters available
in CSTR #54, which is the gold standard, so one would have
to for some reason.
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bugs are
mostly ignored so it's not clear that this makes much difference.
I prefer not to tag such bugs wontfix when closing them because if they're
re-opened, usually it's for reasons that would also remove the wontfix
tag, so it just requires more effort on both sides.
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that I'd
rather not bother with. The distinction between WONTFIX, INVALID, and
WORKSFORME in Bugzilla, for instance, is a distinction I've never seen
much utility in drawing. This is just my personal opinion for my own
packages.
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in a bunch of places (the PTS, the BTS,
etc.). There isn't any technical difficulty with upstream using a
different distribution name than the Debian source package name.
Sometimes it's easier to just stick with the existing name.
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fail to build if the linker is switched to gold.
Obviously, users will have to use -llmmin along with -lm.
Users should not have to do this unless they call the math functions
directly. The shared library should have proper interlibrary dependencies
of its own.
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instead.
To respond to the original poster, I think that distribution is clearly
covered by the license and copyright in the COPYING file and wouldn't give
it a second thought, although of course double-checking with upstream
can't hurt I suppose.
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configuration options to limit it to only
this mode and seems to be designed with a lot of security in mind. I've
been using it for years with no complaints.
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overrides with most of the stuff I've been
backporting and relying on that.
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match the regex that Lintian is using.
I can't find any other occurance of inflate or deflate in the strings
for easymp3gain, though.
You should override this Lintian tag for right now until we can figure out
what's going on.
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to Lintian in this area either. How are people getting a Lintian
error on this package?
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Patrick Matthäi pmatth...@debian.org writes:
Am 13.04.2010 23:14, schrieb Russ Allbery:
You should override this Lintian tag for right now until we can figure
out what's going on.
But this one is one of the not-overrideable-ones as in: the package will
be rejected.
No, it isn't. Look
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
The problem with embedded-zlib appears to be a false positive in Lintian.
It seems to be triggering on the string:
Seek in deflate compressed stream failed.
Ah, no, I was looking in the wrong package. It's fp-units-base, and the
string is indeed
Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org writes:
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:30:58 -0700, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Ah, no, I was looking in the wrong package. It's fp-units-base, and
the string is indeed exactly the problematic string indicating an
embedded copy of zlib:
4 deflate
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