feel like you have to do
this; I just noticed it.)
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If you do need that information, substituting it into the postinst during
the package build is the way to go.
What is the usual method of accessing user-defined control file values
such as XC-branding in postinst?
Debian generally does not use user-defined control file values.
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Ignacio Valdes ival...@hal-pc.org writes:
So what is the usual method of accessing control file values such as
Package: in postinst?
Generally, you don't, since generally there's
systems. But yes, this in
particular does not work at similarly in Debian to how it works with RPM
spec files.
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=`head -n 1 debian/changelog | cut -d' ' -f1`
dpkg-parsechangelog makes this somewhat easier and more robust.
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than including a copy of the GPL v1 in each package.
My inclination is to resolve Bug#436105 by adding the GPL v1 to
common-licenses.
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tags really aren't worth overrides, but it would probably just annoy
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there's general consensus that the largest quality issues in Debian are
lack of attention and resources for maintaining the packages that we have
now, not the difficulty in getting brand new packages included (although
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that, for instance, if you delete an
upstream file in the debian directory it will stay deleted, which the old
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teams to implement). I don't think that
would be a problem, but it would be a nasty surprise if we found that out
late in the process and something we could start the process on early.
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Am 15.06.2010 21:08, schrieb Russ Allbery:
The current DM implementation is weird in that it's dictated by a GR.
It might be worth getting a ruling from the project secretary on
whether we need another GR to change the details
if you need to make the path absolute
for some reason, normally because you're changing the working directory or
doing something else complicated in the command.
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this is a place where whichever is easiest should win. I usually
just cp or mv in debian/rules since it's less work than maintaining a
patch, but it can depend on the situation.
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using tbl.
You can just run man directly on the *roff file, but if you want to stick
with the zcat pipeline, just add the -t flag to nroff to say to run the
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does.
If it does, which compiler should I use to compile my packages and to
generate symbols?
Whatever the current Debian default compiler as installed by
build-essential is.
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If it does, which compiler should I use to compile my packages and to
generate symbols?
Whatever the current Debian default compiler as installed by
build-essential is.
Current build-essential depends on g
packages in main can build binary packages in contrib. The
licensing requirements for the two areas are the same, so no problem is
created by that.
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Source packages in main can build binary packages in contrib. The
licensing requirements for the two areas are the same, so no problem is
created by that.
Stuff related to nvidia-cg
not package Package: foo at this moment when uploading.
Question: Is there sure way to purge the old transitional package foo?
I'm dubious that even attempting to do this is a good idea. I wouldn't
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facilities in dpkg to try to help making writing those symbol files
easier, but I'm still not getting a warm and fuzzy mature feeling about
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won't add any new library
dependencies to your package, it's really just aesthetic.
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are conffiles).
This is only true if you're using debhelper, and from previous messages I
believe the original poster is learning packaging by taking a more manual
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OR is there a debhelper command (dh_..) that will trigger that prior to
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dh_installdeb handles creating of conffiles if you're using debhelper
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believe Debian and Fedora use essentially the same policy: we don't
include software with a patent that we think is likely to be enforced on
either Debian or our users. Where that line gets drawn tends to vary a
lot depending on a wide variety of factors, including legal advice.
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. The new version is not eligible for squeeze regardless,
and it seems to me like there's some time to ask Matthias what his
intentions are concerning the package, whether he is interested in
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chats.)
Is this work targetted at squeeze?
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you obtain the
public key is up to you in that case. Any trusted path works.
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The conventional way to handle this is to build a Debian package that
installs the keyring and runs apt-key add, based off of packages like
debian-archive-keyring, and then have
with Christoph.
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timeout, which is long enough to let me
sign a bunch of packages while I'm actively working (plus git tags and so
forth) but short enough that I'm not too worried about an attacker taking
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you may
want to hold off doing significant work until I have a chance to deal with
that. I haven't had a chance for some months now, but I have a vacation
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of the errors that you're getting.
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the shlibs section because the shlibs
file syntax requires a version number in the SONAME (see Policy 8.6.3).
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actually looks at. All the other things, like the symlinks and
the shlibs entries, then have to match the SONAME that's recorded in the
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non-functioning?
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they're not very interested in the
stable release, and that's come up before (such as in the CUT
discussions), but as with your note above, this seems most often to be an
argument made theoretically by people who aren't personally having
significant issues.
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(install the right kernel headers, ensure that they're always
upgraded when the kernel is upgraded, etc.), so it may be helpful to have
it be fairly obvious that the package is a DKMS package.
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getting it to work with the fglrx and the free versions of the libraries
as well. But not for the next Debian release at this stage, of course.
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therefore ginormous.
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how can i bypass this error
I suspect you will need to either backport dpkg or remove the (optional)
qualifier that doesn't appear to be supported by stable dpkg (or remove
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/copyright but just not removing the notice from the
source code, but it's easy enough to copy the GPL notice, and I think
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Package: xfonts-jmk
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 984
Maintainer: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Depends: xutils (= 4.0.3)
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a new Debian package, it's important enough to release a
new upstream release too, and just make it clear to people in the release
notes whether it's a bug fix they're likely to care about.
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stated elsewhere that he doesn't think copyright law can prohibit the
distribution of patches or your application of patches to software you're
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regenerated from the package. You should be able to do this by running
latex and pdflatex on the .dtx file.
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I thought the user would only be prompted if the file changed *and* they
had made local modifications to the old file. The last is fairly unlikely
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it. The minimal
modifications that one makes in an NMU are hopefully unlikely to result in
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of init scripts being configuration files while still
providing the same features).
The effort that would be put into plastering over further problems with
System V init scripts could, I think, be better put into working out the
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| into individual patches. They are therefore all included in a single
| Debian patch.
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configuration management system that doesn't do its work with packages
(something like Puppet or Cfengine). This is the option that most
people take and it scales a lot better, but it's definitely more work.
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debian/rules, you need to instead hook into binary-arch and binary-indep
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. If your package follows that model, just omit the
*.la files from all the *.install files, and they won't be part of any
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according to the GPL itself: any version ever published.
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in Debian, but I think arguments for having it in
Debian are a bit stronger. I have gone ahead and changed the bug to an
ITP.
Great! Thanks for working on this, Nathan.
Yes, thank you. I've been wanting this for a while as well.
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Tanguy Ortolo tanguy+deb...@ortolo.eu writes:
debian/clean
What is that? I have never seen such a file, is it for a dh command
I do not know yet? I may be interested for my own packages. :-)
It lists additional files deleted by dh_clean.
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I can quickly find the information I need and
don't have to parse and understand hundreds of different ways of conveying
the same information.
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to handle this in debian/libxyz.install?
On Debian, you should always install into lib and never use lib64.
(Eventually, you may want to use the multiarch directory, but it will
still not be lib64.)
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On Debian, you should always install into lib and never use lib64.
(Eventually, you may want to use the multiarch directory, but it will
still not be lib64.)
That was my first
absolutely forbid this in Policy instead of just removing the
requirement. I'll open a bug against debian-policy for this.
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edited as necessary to keep the length of the changelog lines
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Wolodja Wentland babi...@gmail.com writes:
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[ ... ]
but for some other packages I want to use some of the files that are
generated as part of the upstream tarball release but aren't checked in.
Ok, this is not necessary for me right
Debian revision of the package without having to hunt down or download the
original upstream tarball separately. With Subversion, I ended up
checking the upstream tarballs into the repository to accomplish the same
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the Policy process, but it's an
*optional* policy. No package will be required to use DEP-5. It won't
even be at the should level. That was part of the original DEP-5
discussion; it's there for people who want to use it, but it's not
something the project wants to standardize on.
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the latest config.{guess, sub},
or is it enough to set the --build and --host options of configure
with dpkg-architecture?
If you don't use config.guess and config.sub, there's no reason to copy
them into the package.
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it, and that way the desktop file is only installed when
the command is available.
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David Kalnischkies kalnischk...@gmail.com writes:
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You can't use disappearing packages with Policy-compliant packages so
far as I can tell, since it would require both packages provide the
same /usr/share/doc directory
that
shouldn't be required given the current Policy wording.
I think this should probably be raised as a Policy bug so that we can
clarify this one way or the other.
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Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes:
* Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [110822 19:59]:
That's a fascinating point. I have never done that with any -dev
package, since essentially every -dev package would require that, which
seems rather silly. (There are almost no non-trivial C libraries
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:
On 2011-08-22, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
There are not, so far as I know, any exceptions for -dev packages from the
normal requirements for Depends, which say simply:
The Depends field should be used if the depended-on package
packages do not have to declare dependencies on
any package that's part of build-essential.)
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for that to be any sort of issue since C -dev packages aren't likely
to care about dpkg-dev one way or the other.
Note that I explicitly said, and meant, part of build-essential, not in
the transitive closure of build-essential's dependencies.
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Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes:
* Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [110824 19:34]:
-data packages *should* depend on the non-data package in an ideal
world, and the only reason why they don't is because circular
dependencies are a bigger problem. But -data packages are generally
an unfortunate upstream name, given the conflict with the existing
Heimdal package (which is a long-standing implementation of Kerberos).
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it will happen,
at least in the near future. Job control in portable Bourne shell isn't
up to it.
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is sufficiently painful that I really don't want to use it for a
problem involving merges).
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in the one-time tool configuration effort required to separate the
two release flows, generally unnecessary.
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to favor some sort of 3.0 (VCS) source
format. But using 3.0 (native) as a stand-in for that causes problems
because it breaks various assumptions about the meaning of a native
package.
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not abuse the native package format for that purpose and lose the
meaningful distinction between a native and a non-native package.
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and non-extortive ones, this
certainly should be (in part) up to the BTS admins. Any black list that
Debian uses I'm sure Debian has the local ability to override.
Starting upstream is probably the right move, but contacting the BTS
admins about it isn't unreasonable.
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standard.
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