applying stalinist
censorship on its own mailing list, freedom is not only for software,
you know. But then, i have seen that DDs are just a bunch of hypocrits,
in seeing how the non-free firmware case was handled.
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Both ia64 and arm as noted as tier-2 supported in the 3.11 README file.
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Cool and good luck to you.
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? Or numerous other problematic cases in the
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it is probably a license going back to 2003 and never
changed since then. Knowing the author, i suppose we could just ask him
to relicence or something. Still 'a lot of' seemsa bit different from a
single example :)
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Come on Joerg, are you really saying that you need the sources of the
scientific papers included in the tarball ? This is not plain
documentation but scientific
does this imply for the
version of ocaml in debian which will ship with lenny.
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this addresses your concerns.
So, are you officially gently encouraging ? Is the community really
aware of your position ?
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 04:38:06PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 03:43:56PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
The problem is either :
Sven, are you reading posts before posting?
I did read the posts, but i admit i did not check the bug reports for
the other mail where i
already a DD, so
I can upload myself, but I'd love to co-maint/co-develop it together.
Just jumping in, but these packages are RC-buggy, and the policy says
what to do with them, no ? I think the correct severity is grave, fails
to follow policy.
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with the next
arm build attempt, or was the build scheduled on some other arm machine?
BTW, isn't the docbook2html stuff something we could split into an
arch-indep package, so as to not have problems of this kind in the
future ?
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least the one used to build ?
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Did we not use the ocaml-version and co virtual packages for this ?
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 04:28:07PM +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote:
Le Wednesday 14 May 2008 16:20:22 Sven Luther, vous avez écrit :
Hence, ocaml-compiler-libs is pulled from etch, which itself pulls ocaml
3.09.2-9 which turns out to be incompatible with the ocaml-nox from
backports.org
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 05:03:14PM +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote:
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This could be a bug at buildd's side don't you think ?
just depend on ocaml-compiler-libs-API and be done with it ?
Well, yes, surely, but again, it should
on this ?
If there is a need to patch cor/bin-proto, maybe the best way is to
provide the patch upstream and discuss it with them in order to not need
a patch in the future ?
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BTW, i followed this only by far, but have you communicated with
upstream about this situation, and what is their opinion on this ?
The best path ATM seems what
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I don't even know what this bin-prot thingy does, do you have a link or
something to an explanation ?
It provides support for type-safe serialization of OCaml
not looked at the package, but i
just wanted to point out that the above message is somewhat cryptic and
seems incomplete, especially the sentence starting with like, ...
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of findlib (which does exclude executables by name) and in
galax (which does exclude all executables installed under usr/bin).
Should we add this to the policy document ?
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won't be entangled in its transition.
BTW, just curious, but why don't we upload 3.10.2 to unstable, and
upload any further 3.10.1 stuff through lenny-proposed-upgrades or
something such ?
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perfectly fine for other I don't see why it
shouldn't for us.
BTW, i am curious, why not keep the current svn layout, and use git-svn
to access to it, for those who want to use a git like interface and the
distributed nature of it ?
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git is needed for the kernel, but it really is easy to move over.
Especially since the git tools tell you what you need to do :)
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Unless things have changed lately upstream, the position upstream has
always been that there is no binary compatibility between even point
release, and that we
be relatively little work, as it
only involved buildd time with the new binNMU scheme, no ?
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run ones. What happens if the number of ocaml apps
augment, and in particular continuously running apps ?
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If ocaml dynamic linking is now going to happen, the policy should be
adapted, and the separation will always be that whatever is needed at
runtime goes
generators, ...
Do we have some statistics about the size of each of these packages ? If
the size is not such an impact, we can just drop the -dev version.
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of when such a
new release will happen ? The question being how far debian will be with
the lenny release that it may be included or not.
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folk, which if i remember well,
this kind of stuff has been one of the topics they where involved with.
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 04:11:14PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:47:19PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 10:42:55AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
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I was just wondering
maintained or
something, right ? What is the strategy on those ?
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U after the name, means that those packages are group maintained or
something, right ?
Right.
$ man dd-list
What is the strategy on those ?
I would
, and put debian-ocaml-maint as
maintainer. Any other opinions on that?
You should open a bug against wnnp or whatever it is with a
request-for-help^tag (RFH). This will appear in the bug report, and in
the PTS. MAybe even clone that bug and reassign it to the package ?
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, but as
i understand this work is already done.
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but if anyone has a better / more standard suggestion
for the name of the package, it's time to say it...
libcoq-float ? To be consistent with the libocaml-foo naming scheme ?
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 10:36:27AM +0200, Samuel Mimram wrote:
Hi,
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:38:16AM +0200, Samuel Mimram wrote:
Hi,
I've had a bug report (#430878) which has asked me to package the Float
library for coq. Since it is the first coq library
commit logs are marked in a way allowing us to double check
it, be it only because an outsider will be more able to make mistake or
so.
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 05:39:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 05:13:08PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Yes, go for it. This is indeed the way to go, but we must make sure that
non-member commit logs are marked in a way allowing us to double check
it, be it only
files we package in ocaml-libs or
whatever it was.
Joerg, since those files are verbatim copies of what we have in the
archive anyway, i don't see where the problem is ...
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On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 12:03:14AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
On 11083 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote:
you want to check your files again and fix debian/copyright. And/Or talk
to Upstream about the license of at least /ocaml_stuff/* - it is the
broken QPL, not BSD.
Notice
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 09:34:41AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
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Notice that this will automatically drop me from uploaders, which i
Well, not necessarily. You have an alioth account, and even if it gets
dropped you can have
was pointing to some technical
incompatibility between this idea and the PTS way of handling Uploaders,
I hope we are better understanding each other now.
Nope, but maybe Sylvain said it better than me :)
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it in a way we
control :)
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you, probably in
different order and groupping even).
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this night :).
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in favour of (1) (still, I haven't yet looked at binary
name conflicts or similar issues...), what do you think?
I vote for (1) too.
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the refered
form of modification requirement by doing this.
That said, there was no development on ledit upstream since over 4
years, but i see that there was in the last few months. Was this more
than just cosmetic changes ?
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maintained anyway, right ?
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checking, is thus violating the ocaml policy, and will fail on other
non-native arches (m68k, ...)
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Is this cost a performance hit, or only a size increase ?
Is anyone familiar with how debugging is implemented in ocaml ?
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On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:03:47PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 02:59:39PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
One interesting question here, is what is the cost of adding those debugging
symbols ?
Quoting from the OCaml manual (3.09) [1]:
Before the debugger can
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:52:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:12:48PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
This would strongly hint at a behaviour of always including the debug
symbols
in libraries, and since the .cmo/.cma are in the -dev file anyway, this
would
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:20:12AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 07:35:57AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
What is the status of ocaml with regard to the etch release ? Everything is
in
testing, and etch is frozen anyway, so we could start uploading 3.09.3 to
sid
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 09:21:48AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Le samedi 31 mars 2007, Sven Luther a écrit :
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:04:04PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Hi,
It looks like I'm still listed in the meta-ocaml package uploaders.
I just left the project so I guess
and will be released RSN, so there is no real point in doing
3.09.3, which cannot happen before the etch release anyway.
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on debian-legal, basically, you take the GPL-compatibility clause and ignore
all the rest :)
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On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 10:40:42AM -0500, Eric Cooper wrote:
On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 10:09:38AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
I just used approx to help me doing test installation with d-i.
During this, there are 3 features, which i think may be useful :
- ability to have approx take
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my subst, you get
s/@OCamlStdlibDir@/\/usr\/lib\/ocaml\/3.09.2\//g
which is better... and the \/ will become / in the target file.
Ah ok, I understand now. You are perfectly right, I'll add your patch.
Why not use % or any other char as the sed subst separator ?
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about this ? It is just a point bug fix release, and by now it has been pretty
tested upstream, so there should be no nasty surprises.
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On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 04:48:50PM +1000, skaller wrote:
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 06:55 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Debian official source format is pristine upstream tarball
+ .diff.gz + dsc description file (or tarball + dsc file).
So, i don't think you can replace that tarball
you intent to do.
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On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 08:58:26AM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote:
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:02:21PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 08:51:28PM +0200, Ralf Treinen wrote:
Hi Eric,
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 11:44:05AM -0400, Eric Cooper wrote:
I've committed a new
into etch. Thanks.
I cannot find the package approx in the pkg-ocaml-maint svn
repository (in trunk/packages). Am I looking at the wrong place?
Its probably in trunk/place_for_native_packages
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slew of others out there.
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samples of using the class are in
trunk/packages/gmetadom/branches/cdbs/ [3] and
trunk/packages/netclient/branches/cdbs/ [4].
Comments are very welcome.
What about the list of native arches ?
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:35:20PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:20:25PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Comments are very welcome.
What about the list of native arches ?
I thought about that but I failed to put it down in a way useful to the
maintainer.
Have
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that the proofreading can be very quick.
Have a nice day
(PS: I am not subscribed to the list)
It would be best if you maintained it inside the ocaml svn repo, like all
other ocaml related packages.
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if the link pointed to the web interface to svn or something.
clicking on it, i get a svn protocol not identified thingy.
/me wonders if galeon can be teached to know about svn, maybe calling svn ls
on dirs, or something.
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Hello
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 04:52:38PM -0400, Eric Cooper wrote:
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:55:54PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
/me wonders if galeon can be teached to know about svn, maybe
calling svn ls on dirs, or something.
You can use gconf to tell galeon about new protocols
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:49:42PM -0400, Eric Cooper wrote:
On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 12:13:58AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 04:52:38PM -0400, Eric Cooper wrote:
(view-svn is a shell script I hacked up and put in my PATH -- anything
that takes an SVN URL as a command
/control.in, where available. Packages having debian/control.in
Control.in are nice, it is cdbs which is broken.
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:16:44PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:01:31PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Control.in are nice, it is cdbs which is broken.
My comment had nothing to do with cdbs.
Al we need to dynamically fill in debian/control can be done
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:55:33PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:23:38PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
No, you cannot change build-depends that way, and thus the control.in are
needed to easily generate the build-depends before the upload, altough they
are should
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:08:38PM +0200, Samuel Mimram wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:26:04PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 12:53:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
If noone object to this change I will commit it in the next days.
Done
for headers related to the vcs used by a
package, but there is currently no drift either. The only packages I
found with such info are Dato's and I inherited from it.
So, we could add the ocaml abi number in XS-Ocaml-ABI or something such ?
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On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 02:54:16PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
So, we could add the ocaml abi number in XS-Ocaml-ABI or something such ?
Yes ... but why?
No idea, how is this field used, and by whom ? And why did the Python
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 05:18:40PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 05:11:21PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Yes ... but why?
No idea, how is this field used, and by whom ? And why did the Python guys
Ah ok :-)
add a python version in this field. I suppose
easier.
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On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 01:31:05PM +0200, Samuel Mimram wrote:
Get prepared for a new full rebuild!
Can you post this to debian-release, i am banned from it, and i think it is
impportant they know about this new development. I will inform Steve Langasek
on irc.
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Cheers
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 08:05:26AM +1000, skaller wrote:
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 23:14 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 07:04:50AM +1000, skaller wrote:
I have enough trouble getting just ONE package
to work :)
Fair enough, but keep this in mind for a later time
a suggestion, i strongly encourage you to read the new maintainer manual
and the developer reference, as well as maybe reread a bit those older threads
here about those exact subjects.
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On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 10:13 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
We already moved some this way with ocaml, who installs in
/usr/lib/ocaml/version, but didn't go the full way.
Ok, can I do this too? I would install in:
/usr/lib/felix
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 02:03:16AM +1000, skaller wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 16:56 +0200, Samuel Mimram wrote:
skaller wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 10:13 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
We already moved some this way with ocaml, who installs in
/usr/lib/ocaml/version, but didn't go
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:41:13AM +1000, skaller wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 19:52 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 07:49:42PM +1000, skaller wrote:
I can cope with that temporarily -- just tell people to
cp -R /usr/lib/felix/felix-1.1.2 /usr/local/felix
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:03:40AM +1000, skaller wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 22:29 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Yup, I have one, although I can't figure out how to install a .deb
and its dependencies at the moment. Is there a tool for that?
apt-get ?
Apt requires a list
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:26:46AM +1000, skaller wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 23:26 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:03:40AM +1000, skaller wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 22:29 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Yup, I have one, although I can't figure out how to install
, you generate the bytecode package only once, and both the bytecode
and the native code version is available on all arches which support native
code, and the native code version is also prefered over the bytecode one.
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the bytecode address.
Different definition of bloat :)
Is this a problem with Inria not actually doing that?
Nothing such.
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On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 04:47:17AM +1000, skaller wrote:
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 20:26 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 08:00:22PM +1000, skaller wrote:
I have a package which says this:
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, g++, ocaml-nox-${F:OCamlABI}
however
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 07:04:50AM +1000, skaller wrote:
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 21:59 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Sure, then you are in the advi example, not the spamoracle one, and -custom
is
indeed preferable. I think the policy mentions something of this kind.
Now, the idea thing
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 12:23:43AM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
On Fre, 04 Aug 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
Is texlive a full replacement of tetex ? If so, would having texlive
provide a
Provide: tetex-base or whatever not have been the way to go an the easiest
solution, instead
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