Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-30 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Russ Allbery dixit: >local-options means that the maintainer sees a very different view of the >package than any other consumer on the package via the archive. Not only Right, but the packaging workflow is the same (and since there is only one quilt patch, the view other developers have pretty

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Thorsten Glaser writes: > Ian Jackson dixit: >> The problem is that `3.0 (quilt)' has both advantages (eg that >> `nativeness' is declared explicitly) and disadvantages (patches stored > Not necessarily: > | $ cat rs/debian/source/local-options > |single-debian-patch > | $ cat

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-30 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ian Jackson dixit: >The problem is that `3.0 (quilt)' has both advantages (eg that >`nativeness' is declared explicitly) and disadvantages (patches stored Not necessarily: | $ cat rs/debian/source/local-options |single-debian-patch | $ cat rs/debian/source/local-patch-header |Please review

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-12 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 3:30 AM Ian Jackson wrote: > > As for `3.0 (native)', it has one serious disadvantage: dpkg-source > has been programmed to reject version numbers with a Debian revision. > If that restriction were relaxed, `3.0 (native)' would be a strictly > superior drop-in

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Felix Lechner writes ("debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages"): > As a Lintian maintainer, I would like to express support for Ian's > effort to remove restrictions on Debian version strings. > > Unlike Ian, however, I also believe all packages should be

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Jonathan Nieder writes ("Re: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages"): > Hi, > > Sam Hartman wrote: > > > I think there are at least two cases where this issue comes up and is > > important, and where using a debian revision without separate upstream > > tarballs

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 09:09:22AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > hi, > > I'm not fully sure if people really intend to change the 1.0 format, but if > so, > I'm against it. If you do it, please call it 1.1 or whatever, but please don't > change 1.0, too many tools rely on it's decade old

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-12 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, I'm not fully sure if people really intend to change the 1.0 format, but if so, I'm against it. If you do it, please call it 1.1 or whatever, but please don't change 1.0, too many tools rely on it's decade old behavior. Besides that it's also my opinion that we should get rid off native

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-11 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, Sam Hartman wrote: > I think there are at least two cases where this issue comes up and is > important, and where using a debian revision without separate upstream > tarballs is the right approach: > > 1) small packages currently maintained by the upstream maintainer where > debian revision

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-11 Thread Sam Hartman
I strongly agree with Ian in this matter. I think there are at least two cases where this issue comes up and is importand, and where using a debian revision without separate upstream tarballs is the right approach: 1) small packages currently maintained by the upstream maintainer where debian

Bug#953629: debian-policy: Please permit Debian revisions with 1.0 native packages

2020-06-11 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, As a Lintian maintainer, I would like to express support for Ian's effort to remove restrictions on Debian version strings. Unlike Ian, however, I also believe all packages should be converted to format 3.0. A package's 'nativeness' is then declared explicitly, and does not have to be