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On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:23PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote :
Hello Debian people,
I am proposing a new version of the new Debian menu structure proposal
incorporating changes that have been proposed.
What should you do:
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 07:36:49PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
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On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:26:23PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote :
Hello Debian people,
I am proposing a new version of the new Debian menu structure proposal
Le Sun, May 14, 2006 at 04:47:00PM +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit :
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 07:36:49PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
The packages ncbi-tools-bin and ncbi-tools-x11 have many many menu
entries. Do you think that it would make sense to create a NCBI
subsection in the Science
Hello,
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 17:01, Bill Allombert wrote:
Hello Debian Science people,
There is a discussion (in bug #361418) on the future of the Debian
menu structure. In case you missed it, we would like to have your
opinions on the entries for scientific applications.
The relevant
etc., what about chemistry? Chemistry is at the basis of natural sciences
mentioned below, and a basic science in its own. Think about chemistry (there
are great debian packages for chemistry, first on the line - in my view -
mpqc. At any event, there are chemists under the Science section
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:10:36AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
My reasonning was that if people install the packages ncbi-tools-*,
they necessarly know what the NCBI is.
It means at least one person on the machine knows. The other users
will see a cryptic NCBI and think WTF is that?.
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I received this message after I answered Bill Allombert.
The list below is a reasonable one, when Bio is written in full Biology
and medicine is added; medicine is largely biology but with special needs.
I disagree with the distinction science/education. Scientific education is
science, or
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 05:45:44PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
etc., what about chemistry? Chemistry is at the basis of natural sciences
mentioned below, and a basic science in its own. Think about chemistry (there
are great debian packages for chemistry, first on the line - in my view -
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 06:20:25PM +0200, Thomas Walter wrote:
Hello,
From my point of view this 2 section names are arbitrary and too global.
It also opens a long discussion about the hirarchy. I think Mathematics
is also part of Science. At least for application like axiom, octave,
Am Samstag, den 13.05.2006, 13:26 +0200 schrieb Bill Allombert:
Hello Debian people,
I am proposing a new version of the new Debian menu structure proposal
incorporating changes that have been proposed.
Here the change from the previous draft:
- change 'HAM Radio' to 'Amateur Radio'.
-
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 08:58:45PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
Am Samstag, den 13.05.2006, 13:26 +0200 schrieb Bill Allombert:
I did not check it: IMHO it would make sense to try to be compatible (in
parts) with the freedesktop.org menu specification and the structure
they propose.
But the
Am Sonntag, den 14.05.2006, 18:20 +0200 schrieb Thomas Walter:
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 17:01, Bill Allombert wrote:
Hello Debian Science people,
There is a discussion (in bug #361418) on the future of the Debian
menu structure. In case you missed it, we would like to have your
opinions
Am Sonntag, den 14.05.2006, 21:07 +0200 schrieb Bill Allombert:
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 08:58:45PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
Am Samstag, den 13.05.2006, 13:26 +0200 schrieb Bill Allombert:
I did not check it: IMHO it would make sense to try to be compatible (in
parts) with the
Hello,
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 17:57, Francesco Pietra wrote:
I received this message after I answered Bill Allombert.
The list below is a reasonable one, when Bio is written in full Biology
and medicine is added; medicine is largely biology but with special needs.
I disagree with the
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 20:52, Daniel Leidert wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 14.05.2006, 18:20 +0200 schrieb Thomas Walter:
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 17:01, Bill Allombert wrote:
Hello Debian Science people,
There is a discussion (in bug #361418) on the future of the Debian
menu structure. In
Am Sonntag, den 14.05.2006, 21:55 +0200 schrieb Thomas Walter:
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 20:52, Daniel Leidert wrote:
[..]
In general, my understanding of Science is in the sense of research
and not education.
I do not agree. Education also means science. It doesn't just mean
teaching.
Daniel Leidert wrote:
This is not completely true. It defines categories and sub-categories.
There is also a structure. But I agree, that it does not explicitly
define/propose a structure. But I also meant, that you should maybe
think about to be compatible with their category naming.
I do
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 05:57:31PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
I received this message after I answered Bill Allombert.
The list below is a reasonable one, when Bio is written in full Biology
and medicine is added; medicine is largely biology but with special needs.
I disagree with
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 09:28:38PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 14.05.2006, 21:07 +0200 schrieb Bill Allombert:
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 08:58:45PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
Am Samstag, den 13.05.2006, 13:26 +0200 schrieb Bill Allombert:
I did not check it: IMHO it would
Hello,
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 22:26, Daniel Leidert wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 14.05.2006, 21:55 +0200 schrieb Thomas Walter:
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 20:52, Daniel Leidert wrote:
[..]
In general, my understanding of Science is in the sense of research
and not education.
I do not
Am Sonntag, den 14.05.2006, 23:42 +0200 schrieb Thomas Walter:
On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 22:26, Daniel Leidert wrote:
[..]
Where do you make the difference between a scientific and an educational
software product? Let's say: What is a chemical structures editor? What
is a (software realized)
Oh, and a minor typo:
The relevant sections are:
Mathematics [was:Math]
Mathematics-related software.
gcalctool, snapea, xeukleides
The snappea package has two ps.
Ben (the snappea maintainer).
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Hi,
I think Mathematics is also part of Science.
FWIW, I would argue that mathematics is not a science -- it does not use
the scientific method, there is no hypothesis and experimentation -- it
is a more self-contained discipline that, while it seeks to be useful,
is not bound to modelling the
Le Sun, May 14, 2006 at 06:58:32PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane a écrit :
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:10:36AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
My reasonning was that if people install the packages ncbi-tools-*,
they necessarly know what the NCBI is.
It means at least one person on the machine
Ben Burton wrote:
Hi,
I think Mathematics is also part of Science.
FWIW, I would argue that mathematics is not a science -- it does not use
the scientific method, there is no hypothesis and experimentation -- it
is a more self-contained discipline that, while it seeks to be useful,
is not
FWIW, I would argue that mathematics is not a science -- it does not use
the scientific method, there is no hypothesis and experimentation -- it
is a more self-contained discipline that, while it seeks to be useful,
is not bound to modelling the physical world.
I think of new ways to try
To answer here, taking into account other suggestions, i believe that the less
we cut science into pieces the better the result. Specialisation has resulted
to be a negative trend in university education (all over the world). When
industry seeks for a fresh graduate biologist, industry seeks
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