Bug#495233: debian-policy: README.source content should be more detailed

2008-08-15 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.0.1 Hi, I really like the idea of documenting special things about a source package in debian/README.source. However, I think that section 4.14 could be improved a lot. First, section 4.14 should list things that one does not need to describe in

Relative and absolute symlinks

2008-08-15 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
(Further discussion should happen on [EMAIL PROTECTED], but please CC me.) During Manoj's policy talk at DebConf8, Gerfried opened the subject of the policy's stand on relative and absolute symlinks, which currently is absolute if going through top-level, relative otherwise. I wanted to give

Bug#495233: debian-policy: README.source content should be more detailed

2008-08-15 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: First, section 4.14 should list things that one does not need to describe in debian/README.source. For example, the use of one of the standard patch systems (quilt, dpatch, simple-patchsys) doesn't need to be documented, since every NMUer should be able to work with

Re: Relative and absolute symlinks

2008-08-15 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: (Further discussion should happen on [EMAIL PROTECTED], but please CC me.) During Manoj's policy talk at DebConf8, Gerfried opened the subject of the policy's stand on relative and absolute symlinks, which currently is absolute if going through top-level, relative

Re: Relative and absolute symlinks

2008-08-15 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Lionel Elie Mamane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-15 16:47:41 CEST]: (Further discussion should happen on [EMAIL PROTECTED], but please CC me.) Same with me, I plan to scan the archives of the list, but am not subscribed. During Manoj's policy talk at DebConf8, Gerfried opened the subject of

Bug#495233: debian-policy: README.source content should be more detailed

2008-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lucas Nussbaum wrote: First, section 4.14 should list things that one does not need to describe in debian/README.source. For example, the use of one of the standard patch systems (quilt, dpatch, simple-patchsys) doesn't need to be documented, since

Re: Relative and absolute symlinks

2008-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Lionel Elie Mamane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-15 16:47:41 CEST]: So, is there any reason at all to use relative symlinks? Quite some times I experienced them to be more pain than gain, too. It might be useful if people shift around complete

Re: Relative and absolute symlinks

2008-08-15 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 07:49:14PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Lionel Elie Mamane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-15 16:47:41 CEST]: During Manoj's policy talk at DebConf8, Gerfried opened the subject of the policy's stand on relative and absolute symlinks, which currently is absolute if going

Re: Relative and absolute symlinks

2008-08-15 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:42:23AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Lionel Elie Mamane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-15 16:47:41 CEST]: So, is there any reason at all to use relative symlinks? Quite some times I experienced them to be more pain than gain,

Re: Relative and absolute symlinks

2008-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Lionel Elie Mamane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:42:23AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quite some times I experienced them to be more pain than gain, too. It might be useful if people shift around complete hierarchies, but we are

Bug#495233: debian-policy: README.source content should be more detailed

2008-08-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 15/08/08 at 11:01 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the better way is do it similar to copyright: for common patch/build system we should include only a link to the relative document. Maybe on a common

Bug#495233: debian-policy: README.source content should be more detailed

2008-08-15 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 15/08/08 at 11:01 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lucas Nussbaum wrote: First, section 4.14 should list things that one does not need to describe in debian/README.source. For example, the use of one of the standard patch systems (quilt, dpatch,

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:14:07 -0700 From: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that Russ is very pessimistic on the quality of the XDG desktop

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:02:47 +0800 From: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second: XDG has less features than

Bug#484656: Fw: Comparison between Destkop entry and Debian menu specifications.

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:41:26 +0900 From: Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Comparison between Destkop entry and Debian menu specifications. Le Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:12:23AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : XDG has less features than

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:40:58 +0900 From: Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu Le Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 12:35:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : I think that writing a policy is the first

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 00:12:23 +0200 From: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: William Pitcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Daniel Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-policy@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu On Sat,

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:11:44 + (UTC) From: Sune Vuorela [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-policy@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu On 2008-07-06, Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of Debian KDE/Gnome

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:43:32 +0200 From: Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu Le dimanche 06 juillet 2008 à 21:01 +0200, Loïc Minier a écrit : There are only 47 desktop files with

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:01:15 +0200 From: Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-policy@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu On Sun, Jul 06, 2008, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2008-07-06, Mikhail Gusarov [EMAIL

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 17:51:13 + (UTC) From: Sune Vuorela [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-policy@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu On 2008-07-06, Mikhail Gusarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fd.o menus are

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:02:02 -0500 From: Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: William Pitcock [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-policy@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:51:16 +0200 From: Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 484656 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu Le lundi 07 juillet 2008 à 02:48 -0400, Daniel Dickinson a écrit : And depends on

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:27:43 +0200 From: Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-policy@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu Hello Josselin, Am 2008-07-06 14:28:15, schrieb Josselin Mouette: the

Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-08-15 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:44:29 +0200 From: Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-policy@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 01:08:40PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Josselin Mouette wrote: