On 2023-12-29 04:14, Steffen Möller wrote: > What hypothese do we have on what influences the number of active individuals? > > Positive factors > * Location of DebConf (with many or not so many devs affording to attend) > * Popular platforms like the Raspberry Pi working with Debian derivative > * Debian packaging teams on salsa > * self-education > * Impression the DD status makes on outsiders/your next employer > * Pleasant interactions on mailing lists with current or past team members > * Team building with other DDs on projects of interest > > Negative factors > * Advent of homebrew+conda > * Containers > * Increasing workloads as one ages and does not give packages up > * Work-life-balance > * Migrating to upstream > * Delay between what upstream releases and what is available in our distro > * Unpleasant interactions on mailing lists with current or past team members > > Do you have a better list? > I keep thinking about what the last significant change in Debian may have > been - to mind came salsa.debian.org. Do I miss anything? > And I think the change I would like to see the most is a variant of > brew/salsa for Debian, preferably in some mostly automated way, so we have > some way to install the very latest with Debian all the time. > > Best, > Steffen
As someone who would like to participate more in the development of Debian, my personal experience is that making contributions is like dropping a message in a bottle into the sea. It feels like a complete crap-shot whether I'll even receive a comment on any code contribution (including debian-devel RFS, salsa MR, or BTS patch). If something as low stakes as looking at a patch to fix something broken can be ignored so easily, the idea of asking someone to sign a PGP key or vouch for me in the NM process seem entirely out of the question. I've assumed this is due to current DDs being overburdened. If there were a single thing that could be done, in my mind it would be to have someone make sure that contributions do not go entirely ignored. Even just telling someone "hey, none of the stuff you're submitting is really good enough for Debian" would be helpful because they could either work on improving, or stop trying to contribute. Antonio
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