Re: Community renewal and project obsolescence

2023-12-27 Thread M. Zhou
Thanks for sharing the figure. The data seems correlated with the number of new Debian accounts. See the figure below: Python Code for this figure: ``` # modified from ChatGPT. # XXX: members.csv is copy-pasted from https://nm.debian.org/members/ import pandas as pd import matplotlib.pyplot as

Re: Results of the Debian Developer's Survey about Usage of Money in Debian

2023-04-04 Thread M. Zhou
The date on the first page is ambiguous. 10/03/2023 can be in either the MM/DD/ or the DD/MM/ format. People will be confused about it after October 2023. To avoid confusion, formats like Mar 10 2023 is suggested. The report is long -- it must be uneasy to prepare the report. Thanks for

Some fun facts about AI and a few thoughts about the software ecosystem trend

2023-03-29 Thread M. Zhou
Hi folks, I seem to be good at starting lengthy mailing list threads. That said, I encountered some fun facts while reading papers today. I think this is also a good chance for me write a batch of some other relevant thoughts. TLDR; well, I wrote too much again. I have thrown my mail to

Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence

2023-02-23 Thread M. Zhou
Hi folks, Recap: The modern practice of AI has blurred the boundary between the code and data, which leads to some potential ambiguity to the interpretation of the definition of open source as well as the respective licenses. Such ambiguous interpretation in fact deviates from and violates the

Re: Evolving away from source package realms

2022-10-18 Thread M. Zhou
On Tue, 2022-10-18 at 13:00 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 10/18/22 00:07, Charles Plessy wrote: > > If it is > > easy for those who need to get archive-wide priviledges, it is also easy > > to start without that priviledge as a default. > > I really would hate having 2 sets of uploading DDs.

Re: Evolving away from source package realms

2022-10-17 Thread M. Zhou
On Wed, 2022-10-12 at 16:09 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Pierre-Elliott Bécue writes: > > > > > Is there some way right now for me to say "any Debian contributor > with > upload rights should feel free to merge changes and upload this > package > without needing to consult me at all, and I

Re: Freedom in Debian

2022-05-19 Thread M. Zhou
On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 01:01 +, Wojciech Lipinski wrote: Dear Debian Project Team, Personally, I am considering applying to join your project to help with Debian activities related to development and scientific computing using Modern Fortran based on my background in engineering sciences.

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-15 Thread M. Zhou
Hi Paul, Thanks for the additional questions. On Sun, 2022-01-16 at 09:43 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 19:00 -0500, M. Zhou wrote: > > > I've had some discussions with several fellow developers on > > suggesting Debian > > to buy some GPUs to ex

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-14 Thread M. Zhou
On Fri, 2022-01-14 at 15:35 +0100, Gard Spreemann wrote: > > I understand how you reach these conclusions, both from the POV of > hardware driver non-freedom and from the POV of the toxic candy > problem > of trained models. And while I agree with your conclusions, I do > worry > about the

Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

2022-01-12 Thread M. Zhou
Keywords: GPU computing support, AI applications & ML-Policy. Deep learning is a new area. From our past discussions, we have already noted that this area introduces many new questions to Debian. For example, the new AI applications may even challenge the definition of free software. In this