Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-03 Thread Mo Zhou
On 5/3/24 12:10, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On that front, useful "related work" are the policies that scientific journals and conferences (which are exposed *a lot* to this, given their main activity is vetting textual documents) have put in place about this. Indeed. Here are some examples:

Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-02 Thread Mo Zhou
On 5/2/24 14:01, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: You might already know that recently Gentoo made a strong move in this context and drafted their AI policy: - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy - https://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org/msg99042.html People

Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-02 Thread Mo Zhou
On 5/2/24 14:47, Dominik George wrote: That's entirely not the point. It is not about **the tool** being non-free, but the result of its use being non-free. Generative AI tools **produce** derivatives of other people's copyrighted works. Yes. That includes the case where LLMs generates

Re: Aw: Re: Community renewal and project obsolescence

2023-12-30 Thread Mo Zhou
On 12/30/23 21:40, Mo Zhou wrote: I am not able to develop DebGPT and confess I am not investing my time in learning to do it. But can we attract the people who want to tinker in this direction? Debian funds should be able to cover the hardware requirement and training expenses even

Re: Aw: Re: Community renewal and project obsolescence

2023-12-30 Thread Mo Zhou
On 12/30/23 15:06, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 01:14:29PM +0100, Steffen Möller a écrit : What hypothese do we have on what influences the number of active individuals? When I was a kid I was playing with a lot of pirate copy of Amiga and then PC games, and I had a bit of

Re: Community renewal and project obsolescence

2023-12-28 Thread Mo Zhou
On 12/28/23 10:34, Rafael Laboissière wrote: * M. Zhou [2023-12-27 19:00]: Thanks for the code and the figure. Indeed, the trend is confirmed by fitting a linear model count ~ year to the new members list. The coefficient is -1.39 member/year, which is significantly different from zero

Re: libAWSL: Improving Human Efficiency for debian/copyright Reviewer

2020-05-26 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Sam, Even if I said I'll no longer participate, there are some substantial misunderstandings to correct. On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 04:44:49PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > I think you and Mo are a bit stuck in the ftp-team mindset with the > above. *whenever new or bin-new is triggered, all

Re: libAWSL: Improving Human Efficiency for debian/copyright Reviewer

2020-05-24 Thread Mo Zhou
is cheap), it should not impose pressure and unhappiness on anyone. I shall call it the end of my participation in this thread. I didn't violate the code of conduct, and I'm not going to find trouble for anyone. On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 12:46:45PM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > This thread is for

libAWSL: Improving Human Efficiency for debian/copyright Reviewer

2020-05-23 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Debian Project, (Human Efficiency Problem is non-technical) As we know, the human efficiency in the debian/copyright reviewing process can be optimized, reducing the development cost of the community. However, the possibilities of performing that kind of optimization are left uncharted. I'm

Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-28 Thread Mo Zhou
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 02:13:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > If we're only doing this for secondary > reasons like legal liability, it might be worth looking around and seeing > if other organizations with similar legal risks take the same precautions, > or asking for legal advice on whether

Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-28 Thread Mo Zhou
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 09:58:57AM +, Sean Whitton wrote: > Not sure why I'm being mentioned here; Just a guess. Nevermind.

Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-26 Thread Mo Zhou
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 02:59:25PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > So in my opinion the option we should implement is a (mostly) automated > license check. There are various tools listed on the wiki page, but > there are also commercial tools out there which do that task. Although I > know it

possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions?

2019-12-25 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi, Some personal opinions as one of the current batch of FTP trainees. * The ftp team might be in a (somewhat) negative loop from the sustainable development aspect. Let's first list a couple of facts: (0) There are a small group of DDs working as ftp-master. Their time and energy are

Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

2019-09-24 Thread Mo Zhou
On 2019-09-25 07:15, Sam Hartman wrote: >> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes: > > >> For several of these recommendations if I cannot get consensus, I > >> will call for a GR myself. > > Scott> What do you think is important enough in this area that you > Scott> would rather

Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

2019-09-24 Thread Mo Zhou
On 2019-09-25 05:32, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > On 9/24/19 3:21 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 08:10:39AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: >>> For several of these recommendations if I cannot get consensus, I will >>> call for a GR myself. >> >> TBH, I'm not thrilled to read this, though

Re: farewell

2019-07-22 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Marc, Sorry to hear that. In fact I have some similar feelings. On 2019-07-23 01:22, Marc Munro wrote: > I've been using Debian for 20 years and in that time I've never strayed > to other distributions. But Buster is too much. I always fail to find a better free and independent replacement

Re: 請問,ask. Debian master.

2019-05-20 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Wong, Host机的效率取决于各种不同的硬件/软件因素,包括但不限于操作系统内核, 文件系统,编译器参数,虚拟机用途,以及Host机的硬件配置。该问题的复杂性 和讨论已经超出这个邮件列表的讨论范围,请参阅以下链接来访问用户支持渠道: https://www.debian.org/support On 2019-05-20 18:22, Wong Kemba wrote: > 有幾套的OS都不錯, Debian, Ubuntu, Opensuse, Win7 > 都可以作為Host, 然後在安裝virtualbox, 去安裝其他的OS. > > a.請問,這個host