Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote: > > May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we > already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means > to install and update the application? >From an end user

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 06:38:03PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > PS: Is there maybe something broken with the quoting function of > > your MUA? I cannot differentiate between text written by you and > > quoted text. There is no '> ' or

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 06:38:03PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > PS: Is there maybe something broken with the quoting function of > your MUA? I cannot differentiate between text written by you and > quoted text. There is no '> ' or whatever... That's how text parts of text+html mails often

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-10-01 23:16, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 04:52:55PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > I usually start to use software, when it arrives in Debian. > > Or I package it. If there is some snap or other third party > > package, I'm unsure how to work with it: > > > >

snap in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Brian May
Ghislain Vaillant writes: > May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we > already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as > means to install and update the application? For what its worth, last time I tried snap on Debian

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Ghislain Vaillant
On 01/10/17 20:33, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 10/01/2017 09:47 AM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote: Besides, rrom an end-user perspective, I can't picture anyone preferring the (potentially lagging) packaged version over more official means like the Jetbrains app or the snap package, both of which have

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 04:52:55PM +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > I usually start to use software, when it arrives in Debian. > Or I package it. If there is some snap or other third party > package, I'm unsure how to work with it: > > How to install? I expand the tarball to ~ > How to

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-10-01 17:16, Ghislain Vaillant wrote: > Most likely a lot. We are talking about a large application with probably > quite a few dependencies in Java / Kotlin. > > Why not? Because failure to commit to regular updates would feed the > current narrative that Debian ships old and loosely

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Ghislain Vaillant
Le 1 oct. 2017 15:53, "W. Martin Borgert" a écrit : On 2017-10-01 08:26, Ghislain Vaillant wrote: > May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we > already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means > to install and update

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2017-10-01 08:26, Ghislain Vaillant wrote: > May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we > already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means > to install and update the application? I usually start to use software, when it arrives in

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Ghislain Vaillant writes: > All 3 means of installation (Jetbrain's app, snap and potentially apt) > are one-liners for the end-user. So, ease-of-use is hardly a > compelling argument. That's not the argument I made. I am satying that there are people who are not in the set

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Ghislain Vaillant
Le 1 oct. 2017 09:49, "Ben Finney" a écrit : Ghislain Vaillant writes: > Don't get me wrong, I understand the rationales from a DFSG > perspective. I am just questioning whether users of this particular > piece of software would particularly care. The

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Ghislain Vaillant writes: > Don't get me wrong, I understand the rationales from a DFSG > perspective. I am just questioning whether users of this particular > piece of software would particularly care. The same could be asked of many user-facing packages in Debian. Your

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Ghislain Vaillant
On 01/10/17 08:38, Paul Wise wrote: On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote: May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means to install and update the application? I've never

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Ghislain Vaillant wrote: > May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we > already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means > to install and update the application? I've never heard of the first of those,

Re: pycharm package in debian

2017-10-01 Thread Ghislain Vaillant
On 01/10/17 02:36, Paul Wise wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: Le 30/09/2017 à 14:22, kamaraju kusumanchi a écrit : Are there any plans to make a debian package of pycharm that is part of official debian? I used their community edition on windows 7 and it is awesome.