Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2009-01-01 Thread Tristan Seligmann
* Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz [2008-12-21 00:08:18 +0100]: As to mercurial Tristan, I don't know if you actually ever used hg-buildpackage, but it is written in Haskell (!) and see my blog post here: I've used it; being written in Haskell isn't something I consider a problem. It works

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-26 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Piotr Ożarowski, 2008-12-23 13:37] unfortunately I use Git only outside Debian, so I don't know about issues git-buildpackage might have. I know it doesn't have mergeWithUpstream but it's written in Python, so we can implement this. The problem is (FWIK) that it's better to use Git with

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-26 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Piotr Ożarowski pi...@debian.org wrote: [Piotr Ożarowski, 2008-12-23 13:37] unfortunately I use Git only outside Debian, so I don't know about issues git-buildpackage might have. I know it doesn't have mergeWithUpstream but it's written in Python, so we can

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-26 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 15:54, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: ... Last reply on this thread, just to recap what Ondrej and me discussed on irc this evening. I didn't realize I ain't made clear what's my network situation: I'm still at 56k, so many of the think you broadband users consider

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-26 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Ondrej Certik wrote: Agree. We talked with Sandro on IRC, the problem is in a bad internet connection --- it takes ~40min to download 10MB -- then of course every MB matters. For me it takes just couple seconds, so it doesn't really matter if I am downloading tarball+debian dir separately, or

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-25 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 00:48, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: thanks for the points, I reacted to some. so please accept my reply :) Absolutely. :) have you ever tried git-svn to work over your packages actually in

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-24 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 24 décembre 2008 à 00:48 +0100, Ondrej Certik a écrit : Imho if we are going to only version the debian dir, then I also don't see such a strong argument for git (or other distributed vcs). Since it will still need to fiddle with upstream tarball and also with debian/patches +

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-24 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: TTBOMK no other VCS is as smooth to operate as subversion *for Debian packages*. Only svn-buildpackage can handle correctly the versioning of the debian/ directory alone. What mis-handlings of a separate ‘debian/’ directory do you know of in the other

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-24 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008, Josselin Mouette wrote: Precisely. TTBOMK no other VCS is as smooth to operate as subversion *for Debian packages*. Only svn-buildpackage can handle correctly the versioning of the debian/ directory alone. bzr bd works fine in this mode; did you try it out? -- Loïc

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-24 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 00:48, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: thanks for the points, I reacted to some. so please accept my reply :) On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote: P.S. bzed, POX, isn't it time to move our packaging to git? I'm none of them, but

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Cyril Brulebois wrote: Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net (20/12/2008): My personal preference ordering would probably be: hg, bzr, svn, git git, FD, * +1 :) http://whygitisbetterthanx.com -- Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer GPG

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
Btw, Emilio did a list of the most active DPMT users, here it is. Some people like pox and piotr are actually the same. And the same list for PAPT: emi...@saturno:~/deb/python-apps$ svn log | egrep ^r[0-9]+ | cut -f2 -d'|' | sed 's/-guest//' | sort | uniq -c | sort -n -r 401 nijel

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Matthias Klose wrote: I only trust my own comparsion without any date and version numbers. And honestly I don't care about a checkin of the usual 2-5 files taking half a second longer. What annoys me most with git is the steep learning curve and the non-intuitive UI, therefore I do prefer

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Eike Nicklas
I'd prefer: hg, git, bzr, svn, * but looks like the trend goes to git, which is a good option IMHO. Merry Christmas, Eike pgpHKNQOnhCVA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de wrote: Matthias Klose wrote: I only trust my own comparsion without any date and version numbers. And honestly I don't care about a checkin of the usual 2-5 files taking half a second longer. What annoys me most with git is the

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread gothicx
Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Cyril Brulebois wrote: Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net (20/12/2008): My personal preference ordering would probably be: hg, bzr, svn, git git, FD, * +1 :) http://whygitisbetterthanx.com I don't know git, but I want to learn about it.. so It can be a

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:08:03 +0100 Loïc Minier l...@dooz.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2008, Ondrej Certik wrote: P.S. bzed, POX, isn't it time to move our packaging to git? So that I can just commit such patches in a branch and also so that we don't have to mess with the orig.tar.gz, svn-uscan

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 02:14:25PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Matthias Klose wrote: I only trust my own comparsion without any date and version numbers. And honestly I don't care about a checkin of the usual 2-5 files taking half a second longer. What annoys me most with git is the

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008, Scott Kitterman wrote: I'll argue we want something different. We want VCS that will maximize participation. That means both keeping top contributors happpy and keeping it accessible to newcomers. I don't think hg, bzr, or git obviously qualify as accesible. My

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi Sandro, thanks for the points, I reacted to some. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote: P.S. bzed, POX, isn't it time to move our packaging to git? I'm none of them, but I'll speak anyway :) Buxy almost did my point, I'd like to express me a bit. To do a

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-21 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net (20/12/2008): My personal preference ordering would probably be: hg, bzr, svn, git git, FD, * devotee to the rescue. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-21 Thread Ben Finney
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net (20/12/2008): My personal preference ordering would probably be: hg, bzr, svn, git git, FD, * bzr, git, hg, FD, svn -- \ “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his | `\

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-21 Thread Jan Dittberner
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:04:33AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net (20/12/2008): My personal preference ordering would probably be: hg, bzr, svn, git git, bzr, svn I read some git stuff today and think

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-20 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Monty Taylor mo...@inaugust.com wrote: /me whinges that switching to bzr for packaging in general would be a much nicer thing overall, since then ubuntu downstream is pretty well bzr... (note: I use bzr for all of my other projects, so I have a vested

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-20 Thread Monty Taylor
Steve Langasek wrote: (that's just my subjective opinion, please don't start a flame war now) It's a rather strongly worded opinion; if you want to avoid flame wars, you might find it helpful to bring specific criticisms to the table instead of just declaring a solution ugly. :) ++

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-20 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 06:43:19PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Monty Taylor wrote: /me whinges that switching to bzr for packaging in general would be a much nicer thing overall, since then ubuntu downstream is pretty

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-18 Thread Monty Taylor
/me whinges that switching to bzr for packaging in general would be a much nicer thing overall, since then ubuntu downstream is pretty well bzr... (note: I use bzr for all of my other projects, so I have a vested interest) However... _anything_ is an improvement over svn. Monty Piotr Ożarowski

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-18 Thread Monty Taylor
Ondrej Certik wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Monty Taylor mo...@inaugust.com wrote: /me whinges that switching to bzr for packaging in general would be a much nicer thing overall, since then ubuntu downstream is pretty well bzr... (note: I use bzr for all of my other projects, so I

Re: numpy 1.2.1, switching to git?

2008-12-08 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 06:55:10PM +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote: So if anyone (Kumar?) have time to work on this, it'd be awesome. For others, if you just need the package, apply the patch and it will build. Since you pulled me in, I'll have a look some time next week, unless someone else does