Re: The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-07-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hey, On 05/07/2009 Fabio Tranchitella wrote: * 2009-07-02 14:04, Jonas Meurer wrote: I do think that the debian zope managment tools (dzhandle, zope-debhelper) do a great job, and I really would be sad to see them go. I already did some housekeeping maintenance work for zope2.{10,11}

Re: The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-07-05 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello, * 2009-07-05 16:33, Jonas Meurer wrote: in fact i already prepared and uploaded zope2.11 and also did the last uploads of zope2.10 and zope-common. and i intend to keep on doing the work. so yes, i somehow do feel responsible for zope2 in debian :-) still i would be really glad to have

Re: The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-07-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 05/07/2009 Fabio Tranchitella wrote: * 2009-07-05 16:33, Jonas Meurer wrote: in fact i already prepared and uploaded zope2.11 and also did the last uploads of zope2.10 and zope-common. and i intend to keep on doing the work. so yes, i somehow do feel responsible for zope2 in debian :-)

Re: The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-07-02 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hello, On 23/06/2009 Fabio Tranchitella wrote: In the last couple of weeks Brian Sutherland, Matthias Klose and I worked together to improve the Zope packaging for Debian and Ubuntu. This e-mail summarizes the problems we faced, the decisions that have been taken and the changes that we will

Re: The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-06-24 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello, * 2009-06-24 07:30, Balazs Ree wrote: What's the reason for the removal of python2.4? Is there a technological reason, or is this a policy decision? Don't forget that Plone users, who are also the biggest consumer group of Zope / ZTK, still will be users of 2.4 for a while. The unified

The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello all! In the last couple of weeks Brian Sutherland, Matthias Klose and I worked together to improve the Zope packaging for Debian and Ubuntu. This e-mail summarizes the problems we faced, the decisions that have been taken and the changes that we will upload to experimental and unstable in

The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello all! In the last couple of weeks Brian Sutherland, Matthias Klose and I worked together to improve the Zope packaging for Debian and Ubuntu. This e-mail summarizes the problems we faced, the decisions that have been taken and the changes that we will upload to experimental and unstable in

Re: [kob...@debian.org: The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu]

2009-06-23 Thread Erik Rose
I'm sad to see Plone support go, as I have a lot of reservations about how Plone is distributed these days. The suggested upstream way to install plone, for example, is the unified installer. ZTK developers suggest the use of zc.buildout. These tools create an isolated environment where it

Re: The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fabio Tranchitella wrote: Zope 2 and Plone Zope 2 and Plone are obviously related, so the future of one of the two influences the other one. The main problem for Zope2 is that the current stable upstream branch (2.12) still

Re: The future of Zope{2,3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Balazs Ree
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:15:12 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: Hello all! In the last couple of weeks Brian Sutherland, Matthias Klose and I worked together to improve the Zope packaging for Debian and Ubuntu. This e-mail summarizes the problems we faced, the decisions that have been taken