Hallo Herr Hellmer,
ein update ist nicht akut notwendig, wird aber beim nächsten
Routinemäßigen Update durchgeführt.
Die SSL Binaries werden auf dem Proxy ohnehin nicht verwendet.
MfG
Jan Völkers
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There is a \begin{sarcasm} nice \end{sarcasm} article in
linuxworld Australia (see
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1607539824;fp;2;fpid;1) which,
among other things, claims that Debian (Debian GNU/Linux) has left
vulnerabilities there and didn't release any patches for them.
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Giacomo Mulas wrote:
[snip]
linuxworld Australia (see
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1607539824;fp;2;fpid;1)
[snip]
if I were in the Debian Security Team I would definitely be pissed off
by something like this,
Well... Why should you? The article also
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 06:57:39PM +0100, Giacomo Mulas wrote:
There is a \begin{sarcasm} nice \end{sarcasm} article in
linuxworld Australia (see
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1607539824;fp;2;fpid;1) which,
among other things, claims that Debian (Debian GNU/Linux) has left
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
Well... Why should you?
Because, as it is written, it implies negligence on their part. I am at
least partly aware of the quality and sheer amount of work that they do,
I can think of many adjectives for it, and negligent is not one.
Bye
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 19:30 schrieb Sven Hoexter:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 06:57:39PM +0100, Giacomo Mulas wrote:
There is a \begin{sarcasm} nice \end{sarcasm} article in
linuxworld Australia (see
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 06:57:39PM +0100, Giacomo Mulas wrote:
There is a \begin{sarcasm} nice \end{sarcasm} article in
linuxworld Australia (see
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1607539824;fp;2;fpid;1) which,
among other things, claims that Debian (Debian GNU/Linux) has left
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
Cron is another example
Cron is another example of what? By all means, please elaborate.
- the be honest, the debian security team seems to be crippled by the
debian release policy. Because of this policy debian stable is insecure
On Mar 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Jan Lühr wrote:
Cron is another example - the be honest, the debian security team
seems to be
crippled by the debian release policy.
Because of this policy debian stable is insecure by definition.
http://security.debian.org/
You are asked on install if you would like
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:05 schrieb Matt Zimmerman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
Cron is another example
Cron is another example of what? By all means, please elaborate.
Of a package of the
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:45:00PM +0100, Jan Lühr wrote:
Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:05 schrieb Matt Zimmerman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
Cron is another example
Cron is another example of what? By all means, please elaborate.
Of a package of the
Every so often another set of tirades goes across this list. So I wish
only to give my 2 cents.
1. If you don't like the way debian conducts it's FREE business, my
opinion is go find another volunteer group to haggle.
2. If you are going to complain about something you don't like, then
either
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:16 schrieb Bryan Allen:
On Mar 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Jan Lühr wrote:
Cron is another example - the be honest, the debian security team
seems to be
crippled by the debian release policy.
Because of this
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:45:00PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
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Am Montag, 22. M?rz 2004 21:05 schrieb Matt Zimmerman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
Cron is another example
Cron is another example
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:01:14PM +0100, Jan Lühr wrote:
Greetings,
Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:16 schrieb Bryan Allen:
On Mar 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Jan Lühr wrote:
Cron is another example - the be honest, the debian security team
seems to be
crippled by the debian release policy.
Jan Lühr wrote:
That's the only example I know but that doesn't mean much.
Cron is another example -
No, it's another example for a package which heavily deviates from
upstream (AFAIK, upstream is defunct) and is now developed by the
GNU/Linux distributions (and each variant has a slightly
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 16:05, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:45:00PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
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Am Montag, 22. M?rz 2004 21:05 schrieb Matt Zimmerman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:52 schrieb Ramon Kagan:
Every so often another set of tirades goes across this list. So I wish
only to give my 2 cents.
1. If you don't like the way debian conducts it's FREE business, my
opinion is go
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:20 schrieb Nathan Eric Norman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:01:14PM +0100, Jan Lühr wrote:
Greetings,
Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:16 schrieb Bryan Allen:
On Mar 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Jan Lühr wrote:
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
If you have concrete information about unfixed bugs, bring it forth.
Otherwise this is just more FUD.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=196590
Now. To be fair, these bugs probably aren't the end of the world as
long as you understand what all of them
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:56:48PM -0800, Jamie Heilman wrote:
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
If you have concrete information about unfixed bugs, bring it forth.
Otherwise this is just more FUD.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=196590
Thanks; this is something that needs to be
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:31:14PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:56:48PM -0800, Jamie Heilman wrote:
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
If you have concrete information about unfixed bugs, bring it forth.
Otherwise this is just more FUD.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:38:35PM +0100, Jan Lühr wrote:
ehem. What about critics? Am I not allowed to critices their work?
Not unless you have a cogent criticism. Otherwise you cross the line
from criticism to assertion or even trolling.
Mike Stone
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:27:52 -0700, Stephen Keeling wrote:
Incoming from Nick Boyce:
Otherwise, I suggest you move /lib/modules/2.4.18 out of the way,
perhaps to /lib/modules/2.4.18.old or something, and then try
re-installing this image.
[snip]
What on earth is this trying to say to me ?
On Tuesday, 23 March 2004 7:28 AM, s. keeling mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[snip]
Hi. This is the kernel install helper thingy. As I've detected that
you did NOT move your old kernel modules to somewhere safe before
trying to install new ones (as anyone familiar with kernel installs
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:19, Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, it's another example for a package which heavily deviates from
upstream (AFAIK, upstream is defunct) and is now developed by the
GNU/Linux distributions (and each variant has a slightly different
features). Despite this,
On Sunday 21 March 2004 10:20, Sven Riedel wrote:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me how I can tell the machine which NIC is the primary?
If your looking for a way to determine which NIC is which then maybe
nameif(8) is what your looking for.
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Hallo Herr Hellmer,
ein update ist nicht akut notwendig, wird aber beim nächsten
Routinemäßigen Update durchgeführt.
Die SSL Binaries werden auf dem Proxy ohnehin nicht verwendet.
MfG
Jan Völkers
--
Pelikan Partner WWW : http://www.ppp.net
PPP Internetdienstleistungen
There is a \begin{sarcasm} nice \end{sarcasm} article in
linuxworld Australia (see
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1607539824;fp;2;fpid;1) which,
among other things, claims that Debian (Debian GNU/Linux) has left
vulnerabilities there and didn't release any patches for them.
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Giacomo Mulas wrote:
[snip]
linuxworld Australia (see
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1607539824;fp;2;fpid;1)
[snip]
if I were in the Debian Security Team I would definitely be pissed off
by something like this,
Well... Why should you? The article also
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 06:57:39PM +0100, Giacomo Mulas wrote:
There is a \begin{sarcasm} nice \end{sarcasm} article in
linuxworld Australia (see
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1607539824;fp;2;fpid;1) which,
among other things, claims that Debian (Debian GNU/Linux) has left
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
Well... Why should you?
Because, as it is written, it implies negligence on their part. I am at
least partly aware of the quality and sheer amount of work that they do,
I can think of many adjectives for it, and negligent is not one.
Bye
Incoming from Nick Boyce:
Otherwise, I suggest you move /lib/modules/2.4.18 out of the way,
perhaps to /lib/modules/2.4.18.old or something, and then try
re-installing this image.
[snip]
What on earth is this trying to say to me ?
Hi. This is the kernel install helper thingy. As I've
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 19:30 schrieb Sven Hoexter:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 06:57:39PM +0100, Giacomo Mulas wrote:
There is a \begin{sarcasm} nice \end{sarcasm} article in
linuxworld Australia (see
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 06:57:39PM +0100, Giacomo Mulas wrote:
There is a \begin{sarcasm} nice \end{sarcasm} article in
linuxworld Australia (see
http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;1607539824;fp;2;fpid;1) which,
among other things, claims that Debian (Debian GNU/Linux) has left
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
Cron is another example
Cron is another example of what? By all means, please elaborate.
- the be honest, the debian security team seems to be crippled by the
debian release policy. Because of this policy debian stable is insecure
On Mar 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Jan Lühr wrote:
Cron is another example - the be honest, the debian security team
seems to be
crippled by the debian release policy.
Because of this policy debian stable is insecure by definition.
http://security.debian.org/
You are asked on install if you would
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:05 schrieb Matt Zimmerman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
Cron is another example
Cron is another example of what? By all means, please elaborate.
Of a package of the
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:45:00PM +0100, Jan Lühr wrote:
Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:05 schrieb Matt Zimmerman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
Cron is another example
Cron is another example of what? By all means, please elaborate.
Of a package of the
Every so often another set of tirades goes across this list. So I wish
only to give my 2 cents.
1. If you don't like the way debian conducts it's FREE business, my
opinion is go find another volunteer group to haggle.
2. If you are going to complain about something you don't like, then
either
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:16 schrieb Bryan Allen:
On Mar 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Jan Lühr wrote:
Cron is another example - the be honest, the debian security team
seems to be
crippled by the debian release policy.
Because of this
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:45:00PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
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Am Montag, 22. M?rz 2004 21:05 schrieb Matt Zimmerman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
Cron is another example
Cron is another example
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:01:14PM +0100, Jan Lühr wrote:
Greetings,
Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:16 schrieb Bryan Allen:
On Mar 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Jan Lühr wrote:
Cron is another example - the be honest, the debian security team
seems to be
crippled by the debian release policy.
Jan Lühr wrote:
That's the only example I know but that doesn't mean much.
Cron is another example -
No, it's another example for a package which heavily deviates from
upstream (AFAIK, upstream is defunct) and is now developed by the
GNU/Linux distributions (and each variant has a slightly
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 16:05, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:45:00PM +0100, Jan L?hr wrote:
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Am Montag, 22. M?rz 2004 21:05 schrieb Matt Zimmerman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:57:26PM +0100, Jan L?hr
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:52 schrieb Ramon Kagan:
Every so often another set of tirades goes across this list. So I wish
only to give my 2 cents.
1. If you don't like the way debian conducts it's FREE business, my
opinion is go
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Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:20 schrieb Nathan Eric Norman:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:01:14PM +0100, Jan Lühr wrote:
Greetings,
Am Montag, 22. März 2004 21:16 schrieb Bryan Allen:
On Mar 22, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Jan Lühr wrote:
Jan Lühr wrote:
Sorry, there was a misunderstanding between Florian and me (in a previous
e-mail correspondence). I'd like to cancel my statements about cron - my
apologies.
Keep smiling
yanoszu
Ya, right...
Reminds me of typical behavior in another sort of politix.
So, after this
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
If you have concrete information about unfixed bugs, bring it forth.
Otherwise this is just more FUD.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=196590
Now. To be fair, these bugs probably aren't the end of the world as
long as you understand what all of them
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:56:48PM -0800, Jamie Heilman wrote:
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
If you have concrete information about unfixed bugs, bring it forth.
Otherwise this is just more FUD.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=196590
Thanks; this is something that needs to be
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:31:14PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:56:48PM -0800, Jamie Heilman wrote:
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
If you have concrete information about unfixed bugs, bring it forth.
Otherwise this is just more FUD.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:38:35PM +0100, Jan Lühr wrote:
ehem. What about critics? Am I not allowed to critices their work?
Not unless you have a cogent criticism. Otherwise you cross the line
from criticism to assertion or even trolling.
Mike Stone
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:27:52 -0700, Stephen Keeling wrote:
Incoming from Nick Boyce:
Otherwise, I suggest you move /lib/modules/2.4.18 out of the way,
perhaps to /lib/modules/2.4.18.old or something, and then try
re-installing this image.
[snip]
What on earth is this trying to say to me ?
On Tuesday, 23 March 2004 7:28 AM, s. keeling mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[snip]
Hi. This is the kernel install helper thingy. As I've detected that
you did NOT move your old kernel modules to somewhere safe before
trying to install new ones (as anyone familiar with kernel installs
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