Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-09-02 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:20:28PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Quoting Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Just out of curiosity, are there now, or have there been in the past, any _other_ implementations of the OpenPGP spec, besides GnuPG? GnuPG is not a complete implementation of

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-15 Thread Ian Beckwith
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 02:51:19PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Ian Beckwith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Do you have links to documentation of these issues or where to get the pirated versions? How pirated/illegal are they? License permitting, I could maybe take patches from them.

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: If you wanted to make a second version of GPG and place it in non-free, that would likely be an acceptable option. You don't need to make a second version of GPG; the IDEA module can be loaded dynamically. -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 at 03:35:29AM -0400, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: If you wanted to make a second version of GPG and place it in non-free, that would likely be an acceptable option. You don't need to make a second version of GPG; the IDEA module can be

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Phillip Hofmeister: You don't need to make a second version of GPG; the IDEA module can be loaded dynamically. Then the module would need to be in non-free. non-us, I think. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Florian Weimer wrote: You don't need to make a second version of GPG; the IDEA module can be loaded dynamically. Then the module would need to be in non-free. non-us, I think. non-free in non-us, actually. And maybe not even there, since the IDEA patent is a problem

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ian Beckwith: On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Both PGP 5 and 6.5 have security issues which haven't been fixed upstream (because there isn't any upstream anymore). There are some pirated versions of 6.5.8 that incorporate fixes, but Debian certainly

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Florian Weimer wrote: You don't need to make a second version of GPG; the IDEA module can be loaded dynamically. Then the module would need to be in non-free. non-us, I think. non-free in non-us, actually. Why non-free? The code is

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Florian Weimer wrote: * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Florian Weimer wrote: You don't need to make a second version of GPG; the IDEA module can be loaded dynamically. Then the module would need to be in non-free. non-us, I think. non-free

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: Why non-free? The code is available under a DFSG-free copyright license. The one I have here isn't, but if you have one that is entirely DFSG-free, that's much better. An older version is available from:

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: Why non-free? The code is available under a DFSG-free copyright license. The one I have here isn't, but if you have one that is entirely DFSG-free, that's much better. An older version is available from:

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I once worked on an OpenPGP implementation vulnerability matrix, but this topic isn't very interesting anymore. For me at least, there's just GnuPG. Just out of curiosity, are there now, or have there been in the past, any _other_ implementations

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Rick Moen: Quoting Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I once worked on an OpenPGP implementation vulnerability matrix, but this topic isn't very interesting anymore. For me at least, there's just GnuPG. Just out of curiosity, are there now, or have there been in the past, any _other_

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-11 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 at 05:51:19PM -0400, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Ian Beckwith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Do you have links to documentation of these issues or where to get the pirated versions? How pirated/illegal are they? License permitting, I could maybe take patches from them.

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-10 Thread Ian Beckwith
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Both PGP 5 and 6.5 have security issues which haven't been fixed upstream (because there isn't any upstream anymore). There are some pirated versions of 6.5.8 that incorporate fixes, but Debian certainly shouldn't encourage

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-10 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Ian Beckwith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Do you have links to documentation of these issues or where to get the pirated versions? How pirated/illegal are they? License permitting, I could maybe take patches from them. Quoting the licence for pgpi 6.5.8: The source code contained herein

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-08 Thread Arthur de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In short, better package the IDEA module for GnuPG... I did some work on this sometime ago, based on a previous package. The work is here: http://tiefighter.et.tudelft.nl/~arthur/gnupg-idea/ It is sort of an source-based installer. You get the

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-08 Thread elijah wright
http://tiefighter.et.tudelft.nl/~arthur/gnupg-idea/ It is sort of an source-based installer. You get the source, when building the package it downloads the source and creates a binary package. The source file idea.c is however not DFSG free because the copyrights notice forbids distribution

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Arthur de Jong: In short, better package the IDEA module for GnuPG... I did some work on this sometime ago, based on a previous package. The work is here: http://tiefighter.et.tudelft.nl/~arthur/gnupg-idea/ It is sort of an source-based installer. You get the source, when building the

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-07 Thread Ian Beckwith
Thanks to everyone for your comments. On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 06:58:58PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: Keep in mind people may have encrypted files and email archived. The means of accessing archive data should be considered to be at least as immortal as the data itself. Given this and Rick

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ian Beckwith: I shall attempt to get an updated pgp5i with FTBFS fixes into sarge, and post-sarge I will package 6.5.8 and get the package renamed from pgp5i to pgp. Both PGP 5 and 6.5 have security issues which haven't been fixed upstream (because there isn't any upstream anymore). There

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete? [gpg idea support]

2004-08-07 Thread Jake Appelbaum
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 14:13, Rick Moen wrote: Just attempting to fill in missing detail: PGP first used for its symmetric cipher Zimmerman's own amateur effort Bass-o-Matic, which was quickly dropped and replaced with the IDEA algorithm. IDEA is patent encumbered (and will remain that way

pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-05 Thread Ian Beckwith
Hello. I am in the process of taking over maintenance of pgp5i, based on the international unix version of PGP version 5, pgp50i-unix-src.tar.gz The previous maintainer suspects that nobody uses the package anymore so it can be removed from debian, as everyone has switched to gpg. Is anyone

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-05 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 06:51:22PM +0100, Ian Beckwith wrote: If there is a demand for it, is there any reason I shouldn't upgrade to the package to the latest pgp? (6.5.8 I believe, assuming the international pgp restrictions no longer apply). Keep in mind people may have encrypted files and

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Dale Amon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 06:51:22PM +0100, Ian Beckwith wrote: If there is a demand for it, is there any reason I shouldn't upgrade to the package to the latest pgp? (6.5.8 I believe, assuming the international pgp restrictions no longer apply).

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-05 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 11:40:09AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: Keep in mind people may have encrypted files and email archived. The means of accessing archive data should be considered to be at least as immortal as the data itself. Aren't GnuPG's decryption/verification features a superset

Re: pgp in Debian: obsolete?

2004-08-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Dale Amon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I don't know for sure either. I do seem to remember there was a document explaining how to transition and that there was a new key generation method. I also vaguely remember having some problem with my own package signing keys when the switch was made