Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Sunday 13 June 2004 18.01, Dale Amon wrote: What are the recommended rbl's these days? Just one opinion more: (ok, this is postfix syntax. But let's not start this war here :-) reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, these are very good and catch

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:39, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also you may want to look at the rfc-ignorant.org ones, but reading nanae I got the impression that they are more trouble than they're worth. This thread inspired me to fiddle with my anti-spam settings

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 04:57:42PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: a test message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it hasn't bounced yet... Maybe the Yahoo abuse team are being butt-head's about clicking on the removal URL. Yeah, just I found I got listed by ignoramuses about RFC's due to a mail helper

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 04:57:42PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: relays.ordb.org, reject_rhsbl_client rhsbl.sorbs.net, reject_rhsbl_client dsn.rfc-ignorant.org, reject_rhsbl_client postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org Just to publicly eat my previous words... I submitted the request, had a *person*

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Matthew Whitworth
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: This sort of thing is why I would rather use any RBL within SpamAssassin, rather than at SMTP delivery time. Even if one of these services goes completely belly up and blacklists the world, I don't automatically lose mail from it.

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: This sort of thing is why I would rather use any RBL within SpamAssassin, rather than at SMTP delivery time. Even if one of these services goes completely belly up and blacklists the world, I don't

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On 14 Jun 2004, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: This sort of thing is why I would rather use any RBL within SpamAssassin, rather than at SMTP delivery time. Even if one of these services goes completely belly up and blacklists the world, I don't automatically

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
Also, for Vassilii - you use the SpamCop blacklists. That is something that I would be very nervous of. They have some pretty liberal policies about what they accept, and their automatic tools are not that great at filtering out innocent parties... This is why on the primary MX (which I

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Sunday 13 June 2004 18.01, Dale Amon wrote: What are the recommended rbl's these days? Just one opinion more: (ok, this is postfix syntax. But let's not start this war here :-) reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, these are very good and catch

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:39, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also you may want to look at the rfc-ignorant.org ones, but reading nanae I got the impression that they are more trouble than they're worth. This thread inspired me to fiddle with my anti-spam settings

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 04:57:42PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: a test message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it hasn't bounced yet... Maybe the Yahoo abuse team are being butt-head's about clicking on the removal URL. Yeah, just I found I got listed by ignoramuses about RFC's due to a mail helper

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 04:57:42PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: relays.ordb.org, reject_rhsbl_client rhsbl.sorbs.net, reject_rhsbl_client dsn.rfc-ignorant.org, reject_rhsbl_client postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org Just to publicly eat my previous words... I submitted the request, had a *person*

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: This sort of thing is why I would rather use any RBL within SpamAssassin, rather than at SMTP delivery time. Even if one of these services goes completely belly up and blacklists the world, I don't automatically lose mail from it. Please dont do this.

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Matthew Whitworth
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: This sort of thing is why I would rather use any RBL within SpamAssassin, rather than at SMTP delivery time. Even if one of these services goes completely belly up and blacklists the world, I don't automatically lose mail from it.

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: This sort of thing is why I would rather use any RBL within SpamAssassin, rather than at SMTP delivery time. Even if one of these services goes completely belly up and blacklists the world, I don't

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
On 14 Jun 2004, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: This sort of thing is why I would rather use any RBL within SpamAssassin, rather than at SMTP delivery time. Even if one of these services goes completely belly up and blacklists the world, I don't automatically

rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Dale Amon
I just noticed that my exim4 config access to rbl.mail-abuse.org is no longer valid. I'd heard Vixie had 'gone pro' but hadn't thought much about it. What are the recommended rbl's these days? -- -- Dale Amon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
I just noticed that my exim4 config access to rbl.mail-abuse.org is no longer valid. I'd heard Vixie had 'gone pro' but hadn't thought much about it. I believe it's very old news, smth like 4-5 years or so. What are the recommended rbl's these days? Best thing is ask on NANAE or exim-users

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:46:15PM +0300, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: What are the recommended rbl's these days? Best thing is ask on NANAE or exim-users or whatever your favourite MTA is. Here's what I am using here RBL-wise: rbl_domains = bl.spamcop.net/reject :

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
You do realize that the osirusoft blacklists are defunct and have been for several months, right? Basing your decision of whether or not to accept mail from a given host based on an answer from a defunct blacklist is probably not a good idea. *ouch* thanks. I'm revising my blacklists now,

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Dale Amon
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 12:54:11PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:46:15PM +0300, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: What are the recommended rbl's these days? Best thing is ask on NANAE or exim-users or whatever your favourite MTA is. Here's what I am using here

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Dale Amon
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:46:15PM +0300, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I believe it's very old news, smth like 4-5 years or so. I'd not thought about it because they are still used in the examples all over specs.txt. Perhaps I should email Philip about it. --

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 18:11, Dale Amon wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:46:15PM +0300, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I believe it's very old news, smth like 4-5 years or so. I'd not thought about it because they are still used in the examples all over specs.txt. Perhaps I should email

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Dale Amon
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: I'd guess that was easier than fixing all the references to the RBL[+], RSS and DUL littered through the documentation. Point taken... but then again, who on Earth actually re-reads the whole doc a second time, rather than just a

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 18:48, Dale Amon wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: I'd guess that was easier than fixing all the references to the RBL[+], RSS and DUL littered through the documentation. Point taken... but then again, who on Earth actually

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Douglas F. Calvert
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 17:01 +0100, Dale Amon wrote: I just noticed that my exim4 config access to rbl.mail-abuse.org is no longer valid. I'd heard Vixie had 'gone pro' but hadn't thought much about it. What are the recommended rbl's these days? -- i like the sbl-xbl lists at

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Daniel Pittman
On 14 Jun 2004, Noah Meyerhans wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:46:15PM +0300, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: What are the recommended rbl's these days? Best thing is ask on NANAE or exim-users or whatever your favourite MTA is. Here's what I am using here RBL-wise: rbl_domains =

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
Also, for Vassilii - you use the SpamCop blacklists. That is something that I would be very nervous of. They have some pretty liberal policies about what they accept, and their automatic tools are not that great at filtering out innocent parties... This is why on the primary MX (which I

rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Dale Amon
I just noticed that my exim4 config access to rbl.mail-abuse.org is no longer valid. I'd heard Vixie had 'gone pro' but hadn't thought much about it. What are the recommended rbl's these days? -- -- Dale Amon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
I just noticed that my exim4 config access to rbl.mail-abuse.org is no longer valid. I'd heard Vixie had 'gone pro' but hadn't thought much about it. I believe it's very old news, smth like 4-5 years or so. What are the recommended rbl's these days? Best thing is ask on NANAE or exim-users

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:46:15PM +0300, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: What are the recommended rbl's these days? Best thing is ask on NANAE or exim-users or whatever your favourite MTA is. Here's what I am using here RBL-wise: rbl_domains = bl.spamcop.net/reject :

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
You do realize that the osirusoft blacklists are defunct and have been for several months, right? Basing your decision of whether or not to accept mail from a given host based on an answer from a defunct blacklist is probably not a good idea. *ouch* thanks. I'm revising my blacklists now,

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Dale Amon
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 12:54:11PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:46:15PM +0300, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: What are the recommended rbl's these days? Best thing is ask on NANAE or exim-users or whatever your favourite MTA is. Here's what I am using here

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Dale Amon
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:46:15PM +0300, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I believe it's very old news, smth like 4-5 years or so. I'd not thought about it because they are still used in the examples all over specs.txt. Perhaps I should email Philip about it. --

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 18:11, Dale Amon wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:46:15PM +0300, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I believe it's very old news, smth like 4-5 years or so. I'd not thought about it because they are still used in the examples all over specs.txt. Perhaps I should email

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Dale Amon
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: I'd guess that was easier than fixing all the references to the RBL[+], RSS and DUL littered through the documentation. Point taken... but then again, who on Earth actually re-reads the whole doc a second time, rather than just a

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 18:48, Dale Amon wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: I'd guess that was easier than fixing all the references to the RBL[+], RSS and DUL littered through the documentation. Point taken... but then again, who on Earth actually

Re: rbl's status?

2004-06-13 Thread Douglas F. Calvert
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 17:01 +0100, Dale Amon wrote: I just noticed that my exim4 config access to rbl.mail-abuse.org is no longer valid. I'd heard Vixie had 'gone pro' but hadn't thought much about it. What are the recommended rbl's these days? -- i like the sbl-xbl lists at