Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-26 Thread Mike Fisk
You solution just optimizes doing a dist-upgrade. I'd like something that doesn't require that I do a dist-upgrade so often. By time-consuming, I didn't particularly mean the amount of time it takes to download. That can clearly be done in the backround, by cron, etc. Going through the

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that burden they should not run unstable. To me this sounds like: Every single unstable user must track debian-security-announce. versus: One unstable user

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 09:21:40AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that burden they should not run unstable. To me this sounds like: Every single unstable

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
-unstable-security-updates' and cause the upgrade of all the conflicting packages that are currently installed on your system. Seems like a great idea to me. If the BTS had a "security" tag, then this could be done automatically. A quick look through the debian-devel archives, and I

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:55:00PM -0700, Mike Fisk wrote: There doesn't seem to be an automatic way to get all of the unstable packages necessary to address reported security problems. You either have to watch the security mailing lists and upgrade individual packages yourself or do a full

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-11-19 Mike Fisk wrote: [big snip] Is that possible? Would the security team be willing to maintain such a pseudo-package? Something very close to this kind of task package has been discussed recently on debian-devel and we come to the conclusion that it won't be helpful or easy to

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install task-unstable-security-updates' and cause the upgrade of all the conflicting

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:21:10AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: The answer is just to watch one single list - debian-security-announce. That's what it's for :) I'm not sure I understand the reasoning here. If the answer is to watch the debian-security-announce list, then what prevents

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that burden they should not run unstable. To me this sounds like: Every single unstable user must track debian-security-announce. versus: One unstable user

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 09:21:40AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that burden they should not run unstable. To me this sounds like: Every single unstable user

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:21:10AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install task-unstable

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:55:00PM -0700, Mike Fisk wrote: There doesn't seem to be an automatic way to get all of the unstable packages necessary to address reported security problems. You either have to watch the security mailing lists and upgrade individual packages yourself or do a full

task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-19 Thread Mike Fisk
in unstable, that can be prohibitibely bandwidth and time-consuming. It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install task-unstable

task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-19 Thread Mike Fisk
in unstable, that can be prohibitibely bandwidth and time-consuming. It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install task-unstable

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-19 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install task-unstable-security-updates' and cause the upgrade of all the conflicting packages that are currently installed on your system. Is that possible? Would the security team be willing to maintain such a pseudo-package? Not really. Our