Re: Problemas com iptables e brctl

2007-02-25 Thread Rauklei P. S. Guimarães
No 2.4, os passos para compilar são: make dep; make clean, make; make modules; make modules_instal; make install On 2/25/07, Marcos Lazarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em 15/02/07, Fabio A Mazzarino[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Pessoal: Primeiro deixa eu colocar uma limitação. O servidor está

Re: Servidor nao reconhece memoria

2007-02-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/23/2007 05:40 PM, Dyego Souza Dantas Leal wrote: Tenho um Servidor DELL 2900 com 4.0 GB de ram com XEON Dual dual core 1.6 mhz Ok, apenas pra registrar, 1.6GHz processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family :

Re: Servidor muito lento

2007-02-25 Thread Giovani Thomé
Tive o mesmo problema há alguns dias no meu servidor de e-mail: era falta de espaço em disco, depois que um dos programas começou a gerar logs demais. Por infelicidade minha, os logs também eram mandados pro recipiente de e-mail do root. Resultado: os logs e os e-mails entupiram o HD. a

Re: Servidor muito lento

2007-02-25 Thread Marcos Lazarini
Em 23/02/07, Giovani Thomé[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: oi!!! procurei em todos os lugares e não consegui achar nada sobre isso. o meus servidor está lento... tenho qmail, apache, mysql, clamav e bind. mas funcionava direito, até que uns usuarios decidiram enviar uma carga grande de emails (pelo

Re: problemas com leitura/gravação de dvd (LG4163)

2007-02-25 Thread Marcia
Oi Tiago, tenta o programa FIRE USE, já conhece? Ele também transforma a linguagem de DVD para CD-R comum. É bem legal. Már

Re: Editando fotos no Gimp

2007-02-25 Thread thiagom
Olá Leandro Não sei se entendi bem a dúvida do Luiz, mas vai lá um chute... quando se rotaciona uma camada que está no mesmo tamanho da tela, as quinas ficam para fora, devido ao formato quadrangular. para não perder nada da composição há duas saídas: 1)você pode aumentar o tamanho da tela em

Editando no Gimp

2007-02-25 Thread thiagom
Olá Leandro Não sei se entendi bem a dúvida do Luiz, mas vai lá um chute... quando se rotaciona uma camada que está no mesmo tamanho da tela, as quinas ficam para fora, devido ao formato quadrangular. para não perder nada da composição há duas saídas: 1)você pode aumentar o tamanho da tela em

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 06:55:31PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: It never occurred to me to stop KDM while I am in X, because it is the service that starts X and I just logically concluded (assumed) that shutting down kdm from

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 s. keeling wrote: How about electing only people who've had nothing to do with invading innocent bystanders? By definition a politician affects his constituents, many of which can be classified as innocent bystanders. Not to mention that the

Re: audio recorder in linux ... what's its name?

2007-02-25 Thread Howard Eisenberger
On 2007-02-25, H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember there is an application to record audio (mic or line-in) and IIRC it had the X11 interface. What I also remember is the level meters it had, they were two dials, one for each channel, and had needles showing the levels (something like

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: People don't give a right rat's ass about prices and wages correcting when they (and their families) are hungry and being tossed out of their homes. That implies that the care when they're fat and happy, which today's day and age clearly shows they don't. That's not a

Raid 5 Sata

2007-02-25 Thread Pierguido Lambri
Hi list. I need ad advice. We have to buy a new raid 5 sata controller with 8 ports available. We already had an Areca arc-1120 but we got some problems, so we decided to change it. Looking on internet i found this tree possibilities (ah sorry...we have to use a pci-x controller): 3WARE

Re: setting-up a dmz

2007-02-25 Thread Franck Joncourt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mess-mate wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:22:30PM +0100, mess-mate wrote: | | What did i wrong ?? | | No use shorewall? Not provide any actual log messages? | No shorewall, i prefer a own

file dialog in iceape

2007-02-25 Thread Baurzhan Ismagulov
Hello all, I've tried to upload a file in the latest iceape and have seen that it uses a different file dialog. Two problems: First, I can't type a file name manually. Second, it doesn't show files starting with dot. For the first problem, I've found a magic Ctrl-F combination (no help button,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: You can pump your own gas in Oregon, just join a membership cardlock station. You sign a waiver making it technically a form of employment with no hours. Self

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:41:44AM +, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 02/24/07 16:51, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 01:52:56PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] Here is an idea. Why don't voters just make it a point to only

Re: file dialog in iceape

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:48:05AM +0100, Baurzhan Ismagulov wrote: Hello all, I've tried to upload a file in the latest iceape and have seen that it uses a different file dialog. Two problems: First, I can't type a file name manually. Second, it doesn't show files starting with dot. For

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Max Hyre
Ladies and gentlemen: wishful thinking I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could someone set it up, please? /wishful thinking Thank you for your attention. You may

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:41:44AM +, s. keeling wrote: [What this has to do with Debian, or Free Software, or computing at all's beyond me. BTW, I'm a Canuck, so I'm irrelevant.] Everyone involved in the discussion is a Debian user. That's how it is related :-) Regards, -Roberto --

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:16:51AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: You're ruling out one of the main candidates in the 2008 election; Rudolph Gullianni. As far as I know he has had nothing to do with any wars. And if you remember anything about 9/11 he was the most supportive government

Re: audio recorder in linux ... what's its name?

2007-02-25 Thread steef
H.S. wrote: I remember there is an application to record audio (mic or line-in) and IIRC it had the X11 interface. What I also remember is the level meters it had, they were two dials, one for each channel, and had needles showing the levels (something like a speedometer on dashboards of a

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per liter. Do the math: 1.3 Euro = 1 Dollar. 3.8 liter = 1 US Gallon. It's not much better

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:00:43AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: My interpretation is that KDM is the display manager, which is the function equivalent to GDM or XDM. Stopping and starting KDM will stop and start X along with it. If you want to get technical, KDE is just a bunch of different

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:16:58AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: That implies that the care when they're fat and happy, which today's day and age clearly shows they don't. That's not a flaw with economics, that's a flaw with most people's character. I wouldn't even describe it as a

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:25:40AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:16:51AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm rambling though, and probably a little biased since I'm a Republican. Yup. Too bad the Gullianni supports the murder of innocent babies. Other than

Re: file dialog in iceape

2007-02-25 Thread Baurzhan Ismagulov
Hello Michael, On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:22:02AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: I'm pretty sure if you right click in the background you can check Show Hidden Files. I haven't used IceApe/IceWeasel in a long time but I remember it working like that. This works, thanks much! With kind regards,

OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Kent West
Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per liter. Do the math: 1.3 Euro = 1 Dollar. 3.8 liter = 1 US

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:36:42AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:16:58AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: That implies that the care when they're fat and happy, which today's day and age clearly shows they don't. That's not a flaw with economics, that's a

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:39:04AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:40:23AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: I hate talking to Democrats about politics. I'm trying to discuss my opinions in a friendly manner, and you jump into murdering innocent babies? I'm glad you have the social capacity to keep a sane conversation continuing.

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:43:32AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: This actually falls into a similar category as one of my favorite phrases ever: There are no atheists in foxholes. Well, people do like to pretend that they are in control of the world until they realize that they are not.

Re: udev issues backing up /dev

2007-02-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 09:59:35AM +0100, pinniped wrote: Just make sure you have the (empty) directories /dev and /dev/pts. The system DOES need a few devices before udev does its magic - for those create the device nodes the usual way. (have a look at the makedevices script for

eth0: Too much work at interrupt, IntrStatus=0x0001.

2007-02-25 Thread ram
Hi all I have just installed Debian sarge using bussiness CD, and running firewall between my web server and internet its working fine, but i have problem when i dmesg, iam getting the eth0: Too much work at interrupt, IntrStatus=0x0001. i googled but i did not get proper solution, is there

Re: Run out of disk space on LVM

2007-02-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.02.07 10:58, Justin Hartman wrote: I must say I'm a little confused here. In the past I just created one large partition for my debian install but for this one machine I setup seperate partitions using LVM. I may be way off the mark here but I thought that with lvm I could resize

Re: Using courier-imap (was Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove)

2007-02-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Am 2007-02-14 16:45:42, schrieb Chris Bannister: That would be great! Would this be ok: # Mailboxes which get new mail. mailboxes `echo $HOME/.Maildir/*` On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 05:45:21PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: No it would not since you have to setup: set

Re: setting-up a dmz

2007-02-25 Thread mess-mate
Franck Joncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip... | | To me, it looks like a driver probleme as you mentionned above about the | message you got at boot time. | After changed the order of the cards, the 3com card and the others woks perfectly. So it's not the card nor the driver. It's always

Re: problem installing Debian on HP R class 9000

2007-02-25 Thread ram
Hi all iam using web console to configure HP R Class 9000 Server iam attaching the gif files taken screen shot when its booting here are the Files any suggestion and help will be appriciated http://picasaweb.google.com/talk2ram/HpProblems ram

Boot with USB-disk + linux-image-2.6.18-4-k7 (sid)

2007-02-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, Because I prefer to run with a Debian Kernel instead of rolling my own I decided to try again. Installed linux-image-2.6.18-4-k7 on Sid. There is a USB disk installed that has entries in /etc/fstab. I boot with that image and I get: ... Sun Feb 25 11:11:28 2007: fsck.ext2: No such file

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 03:16, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: People don't give a right rat's ass about prices and wages correcting when they (and their families) are hungry and being tossed out of their homes. That implies that the care when

A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 06:16, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:41:44AM +, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 02/24/07 16:51, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 01:52:56PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Michael M.
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 08:56 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I find it funny that you think I am Democrat. Besides, how else would characterize abortion? The death penalty is state-sanctioned killing of capital offenders. Combat is the state-sanctioned killing of the agents of a

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per liter. Do the math: 1.3 Euro = 1 Dollar. 3.8 liter = 1 US Gallon. It's not

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per liter. Do the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per liter. Do the math:

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 13:14, Michael M. wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 08:56 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I find it funny that you think I am Democrat. Besides, how else would characterize abortion? The death penalty is state-sanctioned killing of

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:43:32AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: This actually falls into a similar category as one of my favorite phrases ever: There are no atheists in foxholes. Well, people do like to pretend that they are in control of the world until they

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 13:20, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: [snip] Like I said, I forgot to do the conversions. I've never been over the border so I just assume everything in the

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread cothrige
* Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anyway, voluntary abortion is legal in most countries, including the USA, so voluntary abortion does not meet the statutory definition of murder. I am obviously inserting myself into another person's conversation, and for that I apologize, but having

Re: debian astrolog package tips

2007-02-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: mrweb wrote: On Sunday 11 February 2007 06:03, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: mrweb wrote: snip Hi, I am using astrolog with both Sarge and Etch, it installed perfectly each time that i installed it with a simple call to apt-get install astrolog minus the quotes of course,

Re: 2.6.20 and IP_CONNTRACK_FTP

2007-02-25 Thread David Baron
So playing with make menuconfig: I can get this module and be missing half of what was around in previous kernels or get the rest back and still be missing ip_conntrack_ftp.ko. Either way, the thing will boot but will not connect. It may not work with nvidia's driver either at this point. So

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:47:59PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 13:20, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: [snip] Like I said, I forgot to do the conversions.

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 09:31:39PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 04:21:34PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: I must admit the vast majority of my exposure to Canada is BC and Alberta, which I understand are a bit more progressive than

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael Pobega wrote: You're ruling out one of the main candidates in the 2008 election; Rudolph Gullianni. As far as I know he has had nothing to do with any wars. Rudy doesn't have a leg to stand on. His popularity increases the farther away from New York City you get. This idiot picked

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 03:48:56PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm not really convinced that's the case. Glasnost allowed the average Soviet to find out the full horror of their regime's history. The collective shock, awe and outrage of the Soviet population

Etch installation problem

2007-02-25 Thread jwhill2000
I know of two ways you can work around this - I have encountered this problem too. You can either install sarge and do a dist-upgrade or a 2-step process of installing etch. Install Sarge base system: 1) Install sarge 2) Edit /etc/apt/sources.list; change sarge entries to etch 3) apt-get

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Max Hyre wrote: Ladies and gentlemen: wishful thinking I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could someone set it up, please? /wishful thinking Thank you for

Re: Run out of disk space on LVM

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:40:13PM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: if you can, repartition the LVM, merge / and /usr and mount /tmp on tmpfs (you can put remaining space on swap, or /) Out of curiousity, why do you recommend merging / and /usr? I personally think that being able to

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..aye, but how many of us on the western side could know for sure before Russia Left the SU?  Or even on the eastern side? Everybody. When has any country having breadlines and commodity shortages been built to last? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wishful thinking I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could someone set it up, please? /wishful thinking Thank you for

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:24:26 -0800 Tyler MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Maybe a debian-chat list would be a good thing! We're all part of the debian community, and it's good for communities to socialize, and having a place for debian people where anything goes would help free

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe Hart wrote: It's not much better anywhere in Europe. That's why most people drive small cars. That's why I drive a small car and why small cars are popular in the non-retarded segment of the American population as well. :o) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:36:33AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Of course, it can also be viewed as big research project, in which case there were some successes. I'll grant you that much, as a research project it was moderately successful. Though I think you'd

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:41AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..aye, but how many of us on the western side could know for sure before Russia Left the SU?  Or even on the eastern side? Everybody. When has any country having breadlines and commodity shortages been

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:32:06PM -0500, Celejar wrote: There have been in the past various proposals for some sort of an OT list; search the archives for the discussions. I'm not actually too familiar with the pros and cons, but it has been discussed before. It is also important to

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael Pobega wrote: $4 per gallon though? That's amazing. I can't believe anyone can be allowed to change that much for gas, it's highway robbery That's the price of a gallon of gas. In the US, this price is largely subsidized by military force so it's artificially low. -- To

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Miles Fidelman
Paul Johnson wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 03:48:56PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm not really convinced that's the case. Glasnost allowed the average Soviet to find out the full horror of their regime's history. The collective shock, awe and outrage of

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:14:05AM -0800, Michael M. wrote: a·bor·tion (??-bôr'sh??n) n. 1. a. Termination of pregnancy and expulsion of an embryo or of a fetus that is incapable of survival. b. Any of various procedures that result in such termination and expulsion. Also called induced

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 02:04:27PM -0600, cothrige wrote: * Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anyway, voluntary abortion is legal in most countries, including the USA, so voluntary abortion does not meet the statutory definition of murder. I am obviously inserting myself into

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:41:02AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Joe Hart wrote: It's not much better anywhere in Europe. That's why most people drive small cars. That's why I drive a small car and why small cars are popular in the non-retarded segment of the American population as well.

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:42:26AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: $4 per gallon though? That's amazing. I can't believe anyone can be allowed to change that much for gas, it's highway robbery That's the price of a gallon of gas. In the US, this price is largely

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: That explains one of the reasons that public transportation is much better here, although in New York City, public transportation is also readily available (unless it is raining :) ) Public transportation viability also depends on

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about how much we get ripped off

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: In size and authority, yes, but unfortunately not in ability to serve it's public, which really should be the litmus test of a government's success overall. Uh, no. There is a reason why the Constitution specifically limits powers not explicitly granted to the Federal

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: That explains one of the reasons that public transportation is much better here, although in New York City, public transportation is also readily available (unless

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:55:58PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: Please don't start talking

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:55:58PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: I remember when I was in elementary school (in Virginia) that we were taught the metric system because the rest of the world uses it and we're going to switch soon. That never happened. I guess that's like this year is the year of

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:13:00 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 06:16, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:41:44AM +, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 02/24/07 16:51, Roberto C.

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 12:24:26PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wishful thinking I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 25 February 2007 19:39, Paul Johnson wrote: Max Hyre wrote: Ladies and gentlemen: wishful thinking I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could someone

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel's weird close/quit behaviour

2007-02-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 06:53:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: One of the things that draws me to KDE is the fact that _almost_ everything is configurable (I can't change the foreground text color on the items in

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Nigel Henry wrote: Personally I think this thread is a bit sick, and also a bit sad. That's ok if we can think that of you. I thought this mailing list debian-user@lists.debian.org was for for folks using debian to get answers to their problems. You thought wrong. What's the

Re: mysql server won't start,

2007-02-25 Thread tom arnall
On Sunday 11 February 2007 21:57, Andy Smith wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 09:51:35AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: On Sunday 11 February 2007 02:12, Raffaele Morelli wrote: Hi, quoting from your my.cnf # WARNING: Using expire_logs_days without bin_log crashes the server! See

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 14:47, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:41:02AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Joe Hart wrote: [snip] Or when you want to go camping out in the middle of nowhere.

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:19:01 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to sound stupid, but how does one use this ignore thread feature? I'm pretty new to mailing lists so I'm guessing I respond to the topic and put ignore in the subject header, but I could be wrong and don't want to

2.6.20

2007-02-25 Thread pinniped
If you follow 'kerneltrap.org', 2.6.19 and 2.6.20 are bug-ridden. 2.6.19 shipped with bugs and 2.6.20 hasn't worked them all out yet. But if you enjoy playing with the latest 'git' data, this is what happens. I usually wait until a released version is a few weeks old before I decide to play

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread ljmoore
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:33:03AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Now, what I would be interested to know is how gas prices in Canada compare to those in the US and Europe. Hi Roberto: In Southern Ontario price is plus or minus 85 cents per litre mostly. Higher sometimes if there's a

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:09:40 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I know that they all use the metric system. Hell, my father is married to a Brit. But I always forget that they use it, and I Where do you think the Imperial system comes from? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Michael M.
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 08:57 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:43:32AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: This actually falls into a similar category as one of my favorite phrases ever: There are no atheists in foxholes. Well, people do like to pretend that they are

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:34:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/25/07 14:47, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:41:02AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Joe Hart wrote: [snip] Or when you want to go camping out in the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 12:41, Paul Johnson wrote: Joe Hart wrote: It's not much better anywhere in Europe. That's why most people drive small cars. That's why I drive a small car and why small cars are popular in the non-retarded segment of the

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-25 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 13:34 -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: IANADD, but I would like to see something get going with this soon... what is the procedure? Does a debian developer sponsor the mailing list? Is there some sort of vote that has to happen? See

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 14:04, cothrige wrote: * Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anyway, voluntary abortion is legal in most countries, including the USA, so voluntary abortion does not meet the statutory definition of murder. I am obviously

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Tyler MacDonald wrote: I use mutt in non-threaded mode so I have no idea. :-) So the list should adjust itself to how you read mail? However, this proves the value of having a designated OT list signficantly guys: Here is someone subscribed to the very mailing list that supposed to

have I messed up package management?

2007-02-25 Thread Steve Kleene
In another thread (sound problems on debian), I explained that my new etch installation didn't drive my Intel onboard sound card. It was suggested that I try upgrading from source from alsa-1.0.13 to alsa-1.0.14. I've done this and have sound now but wonder what kind of pain will be ahead with

We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-25 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's GREATLY increasing the noise:signal ratio for people who don't know about ignore thread or other such things. It doesn't bother me personally (like I said I've found some of the messages in this thread quite interesting... and if I don't feel

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who gives a shit about politics, and what the hell has it it got to do with the debian mailing list??? It's the Debian *USER* list, not the *DEBIAN* User list. As has been discussed several times every time a long thread comes up the list is for the

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:37:29PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Are you suggesting that instead of creating a debian off topic mailing list, we should create a debian-help list instead, specifically mandated on the topic of getting and giving help with debian? debian-user's

Re: have I messed up package management?

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:14:48PM -0500, Steve Kleene wrote: What I did was to put in alsa-base 1.0.14-rc1 from Debian experimental and alsa-lib and alsa-driver 1.0.14rc2 from source. I made deb files of these two but couldn't install them that way because of conflicts. I tried

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:30:05PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Nah. Though we can expand the political discussion a bit. How about venturing into the area on how France lacks free speech and they're always trying to censor stuff? Required reading before *any* discussion about France:

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:35:12PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:19:01 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to sound stupid, but how does one use this ignore thread feature? I'm pretty new to mailing lists so I'm guessing I respond to the topic and put

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