Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:30:23AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: hm.. okay, I see what you mean. Well, first, take the money out of politics -- publicly funded elections. Second, provide room and board for representatives while serving in washington. third, pay them the mean amount for

Re: Debian 4

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 18:58 +, Doofus wrote: When? For the past seven months we've had under the news section at debian.org: Upcoming Release of Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 Upcoming. Is this an off-beat sense of humour on the part of the developers? Considering how long it took Sarge to

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:28:02AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Clean? Yeah, so whose backyard gets the salt flat of buried nuclear waste for the next few hundred years again? (Oh, wait, mine, that's right...) There are plenty of remote places to store nuclear waste. IMHO, that is better

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 15:42 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:53:31AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: in that same vein, I think us congressional representatives should be paid the mean income for their district :-P A I'm guessing that you meant median

Re: Debian Installation on a cybercafe PC

2007-02-26 Thread Kent West
John K Masters wrote: Deboo ^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because I need to burn CDs at times and as far as I have knowledge, Knoppix atleast won't let the CD out once booted. Try Puppy Linux - runs completely in RAM so is fast and allows easy CD burning. http://www.puppylinux.org/

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/25/07 19:51, Michael M. wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 19:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: All the time we (i.e., us, through the government) tell people what they can and can not do with their own bodies. For example, the members of the NYC Board of Health who in

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:50:16PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:37:29PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Are you suggesting that instead of creating a debian off topic mailing list, we should create a debian-help list instead, specifically mandated on the

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:18:52AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: snip Let me start off by saying, apologetically, that I mis-spoke myself. I am *not* in favor of the draft as it is commonly understood or was used in this country. What I am in favor of is mandatory service. And I think

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:53:01PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: these OT threads are just the water-cooler break after a long morning of churning out widgets. We all get together and thump on each other for a while before getting back to work. It keeps the interest up for those of us

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Daniel B.
Wulfy wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Ooh. Don't even get me started on nuclear power. Cheap, clean, virtually unlimited. We can't use it *because* of the conservationists and environmentalists. Regards, -Roberto Decommissioning nuclear plant... storage of nuclear waste... clean?

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:38:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Name five American national-level politicians in your lifetime that had moral fortitude. You can't get that far in US politics without being a scumbag. Reagan, Colin Powell, W (whatever you think of him, he *does* have moral

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:48:14PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 15:42 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I'm guessing that you meant median when you said mean. The mean is far too sensitive to outliers. Now, Robert that is mean... lighten up. There is no reason to be

Re: Same Questions? (REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:53 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: these OT threads are just the water-cooler break after a long morning of churning out widgets. We all get together and thump on each other for a while before getting back to work. It keeps the interest up for those of us who spend

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to sound stupid, but how does one use this ignore thread feature? so I went looking for how to do this in mutt, without great results. But I found *this* very thread on the first page of google hits! Go figure. anyway, this

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:34:30PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:27:34PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: I qualify as one of the brand spanking new members and I say I have not laughed so hard in a long time. Keep the OT stuff going Welcome! There are

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:48:08PM -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 16:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:27:34PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: [snip] Do you *really* want to

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:20:09PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:56:51PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:46:30 +0100 Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list But does a

Re: Same Questions? (REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:05:10PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:53 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: these OT threads are just the water-cooler break after a long morning of churning out widgets. We all get together and thump on each other for a while before getting

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:08:24PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 13:55, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:36:51PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: [snip] I wonder what burning a gallon of gas really costs? (I don't

Re:

2007-02-26 Thread pChan --
Hey, I am trying to install apache2 on my webserver, except it won't start. I've tried purging apache2 etc, but it keeps giving me this error when trying to start:sd-6340:~# apt-get install apache2 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages

debian, package and other version info

2007-02-26 Thread Petra Kabayo
Hi, I'm trying to discern the versioning info being used. Take this mysql bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369735 Says fixed in version mysql-server-4.1/4.1.11a-4sarge4. I figure 4.1/4.1.11a is the mysql version number, and 4sarge4 is specific to Debian?

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:02:44PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 13:40, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:10:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 01:15, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/25/07 17:37, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:42:24PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:53:31AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: in that same vein, I think us congressional representatives should be paid the mean income for their district :-P A I'm guessing that you meant

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:52:22PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 13:30, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:09:47PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 11:53, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:05:39AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Andrew

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:43:40PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:30:23AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: hm.. okay, I see what you mean. Well, first, take the money out of politics -- publicly funded elections. Second, provide room and board for

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:57:02PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:18:52AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: snip This makes much more sense to me. Though I am not in favor mandatory service, I do know some swedes and turks and they have a good opinion of it

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:40:17AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: What I am curious about is how this thread revivied itself after being out of use for a couple of weeks. amazing. it mus be going on 3 or 4 months now (just a guess). Accidentally marked this

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Do you have a proposal for solving that problem? Going back to a limited federal government as the founding fathers envisioned? Returning the states' voice in the federal government? Revamping the tax laws so that the rank and file citizen knows exactly what

IceWeasel/FireFox 2.0.0.2

2007-02-26 Thread Roby
I just installed IceWeasel 2.0.0.2 included in today's dist-upgrade. Although my preference remains a blank screen on startup, it starts with Mozilla's page inviting me to download 2.0.0.2. Nice touch. How do I get back to a blank screen startup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re:

2007-02-26 Thread Michael Pobega
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:04:41PM +, pChan -- wrote: Hey, I am trying to install apache2 on my webserver, except it won't start. I've tried purging apache2 etc, but it keeps giving me this error when trying to start:sd-6340:~# apt-get install apache2 Reading Package Lists... Done

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 12:51, Paul Johnson wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/25/07 14:04, cothrige wrote: * Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] doesn't matter whether or not it's legal, it's still murder. Though where this philosophy breaks down

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 13:26, Paul Johnson wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/25/07 19:51, Michael M. wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 19:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Then they're controlling me. I don't see the electrodes coming out of your ear.

Re: IceWeasel/FireFox 2.0.0.2

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:41:48PM -0500, Roby wrote: I just installed IceWeasel 2.0.0.2 included in today's dist-upgrade. Although my preference remains a blank screen on startup, it starts with Mozilla's page inviting me to download 2.0.0.2. Nice touch. How do I get back to a blank

Apache2 won't remove.

2007-02-26 Thread pChan --
I am trying to remove apache2. But before that, I did something stupid. I rm apache2 in /etc/init.d So now, if I try to remove apache2-mpm-worker... sd-6340:/etc/init.d# apt-get remove apache2-mpm-worker Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Those damned Brits can't even get the gallon correct!!! Might you not have that a bit backwards? The Brits were around long before the Americans, and have not changed their system. Well, they did change

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 13:38, Paul Johnson wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/25/07 12:21, Paul Johnson wrote: s. keeling wrote: [snip] I wouldn't be quite so quick to eliminate Hillary. After 8 years of hard right-wing rule, name recognition alone could

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:39:40PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Do you have a proposal for solving that problem? Going back to a limited federal government as the founding fathers envisioned? Returning the states' voice in the federal government? hmmm...

Configuring pptpd confusing

2007-02-26 Thread Alan Chandler
I have just installed pptpd on my etch system and am now confused about what configuration file is where Documentation seems to imply a /etc/pptpd.conf file, but there isn't one with the installation. There is a file /etc/ppp/pptpd-options, but this is supposed to be only for when clients

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: Ask a pro-lifer whether she'd euthanize a pregnant cat. Then you'll know when she *really* thinks life begins. They'll hedge it by saying that a cat is not human. No, the real question is how many pro-lifers have ever gotten artificial insemination to help the ol'

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: hmmm... used to be the Senate was elected by the state legislatures. Would you propose returning to that? (can't remember the amendment number offhand) I don't think its a bad idea. Exactly. And it's the 17th. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:53:01PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 13:26, Paul Johnson wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/25/07 19:51, Michael M. wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 19:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Then they're controlling me. I don't see the electrodes coming

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread cothrige
* Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ask a pro-lifer whether she'd euthanize a pregnant cat. Then you'll know when she *really* thinks life begins. Well, I don't think I could euthanize a pregnant cat. Do you think many people could? Seems a bit cold for me. Patrick -- To

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 14:57, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:18:52AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: snip [snip] more massive snippage On the differences between the Army and Air Force, I chose the Air Force for a good reason. I

Re: IceWeasel/FireFox 2.0.0.2

2007-02-26 Thread Roby
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:41:48PM -0500, Roby wrote: I just installed IceWeasel 2.0.0.2 included in today's dist-upgrade. Although my preference remains a blank screen on startup, it starts with Mozilla's page inviting me to download 2.0.0.2. Nice touch. How

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: IOW, they are mercenaries. Only if armed, otherwise I think the correct term is consultants. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do...

Re: debian, package and other version info

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:22:45PM -0800, Petra Kabayo wrote: Hi, I'm trying to discern the versioning info being used. Take this mysql bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369735 Says fixed in version mysql-server-4.1/4.1.11a-4sarge4. I figure

Re: Substitution jutsu (was OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 14:09 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: IOW, they are mercenaries. Only if armed, otherwise I think the correct term is consultants. ;) s/consultants/conslutants/ -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:00:09PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Ask a pro-lifer whether she'd euthanize a pregnant cat. Then you'll know when she *really* thinks life begins. They'll hedge it by saying that a cat is not human. No, the real question is how many

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:34:51PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I agree that is potentially (and with the crop of politicians we've had in my lifetime, certainly) a likely outcome, it is not my intention. The intention is to get politicians to actually pay attention to their

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 15:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:08:24PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 13:55, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:36:51PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Paul Johnson wrote:

Re: debian, package and other version info

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 17:14 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:22:45PM -0800, Petra Kabayo wrote: Hi, I'm trying to discern the versioning info being used. Take this mysql bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369735 Says

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 15:24, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:02:44PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 13:40, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:10:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 01:15, Joe Hart

Re: Repository

2007-02-26 Thread Niels Rasmussen
Baz wrote: Hello. I need help getting into my source.list to delete some lines. How do I change the permissions? I've tried Synaptic, but the lines I need to delete aren't there. Sebastian Open a terminal and type this: nano /etc/apt/sources.list Press enter. Now you can edit it :-)

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread cothrige
* Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was just having this discussion the other day. Legal killing is *not* murder. I would certainly say that lawful killing is not murder, but might not agree with the specific choice of legal. Legal would imply the laws of the land, whereas lawful would

Re: SOLVED: Cannot boot using Grub from CD

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:42:12PM +, Chris Lale wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 04:55:14PM +, Chris Lale wrote: [...] Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue... so grub cannot find the file, probably the kernel. have you

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:39:40PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Do you have a proposal for solving that problem? Going back to a limited federal government as the founding fathers envisioned? Returning the states' voice in the federal government? Revamping

Re: IceWeasel/FireFox 2.0.0.2

2007-02-26 Thread Michael Marsh
On 2/26/07, Roby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:41:48PM -0500, Roby wrote: I just installed IceWeasel 2.0.0.2 included in today's dist-upgrade. Although my preference remains a blank screen on startup, it starts with Mozilla's page inviting

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:24:40AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:36:59 -0500 John - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On (24 and 25/02/07) mainly the same four or five folks wrote: Quite a lot of off-topic opinionated political nonsense. Look, guys -- you know who you are

Re: Bio-Based Fuels (OT: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-02-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 16:22 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Bio-fuels *are* a great idea. Until you realize *how much* gasoline diesel this country uses (then add 3x more to that for the rest of the world), and the fact that stuff like corn ethanol needs lots of (*petrolem* based) fertilizer.

Re: #chsh -s /usr/bin/passwd - by misteke

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:33:37PM +0100, Jarek Buczy?ski wrote: su -s /bin/bash It doesn't work :( -- $ su --shell=/bin/bash Password: Enter new UNIX password: -- $ cgrep root /etc/passwd root:x:0:0:root:/root:/usr/bin/passwd --

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 17:57, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Joe Hart wrote: I remember when I was in elementary school (in Virginia) that we were taught the metric system Actually this approach is very good. You get to know about

Please help to make a server accesible from the internet

2007-02-26 Thread Jordi
Hello I am actually a user of Xubuntu Linux, but as it is based on Debian, and here may be more people that are wise on servers, I come to ask you for help. I have 2 computers: one with Xubuntu and the other with Windows XP. The Xubuntu machine is connected to the router Thomson Speedtouch 530v6

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Niels Rasmussen
John - wrote: On (24 and 25/02/07) mainly the same four or five folks wrote: Quite a lot of off-topic opinionated political nonsense. Look, guys -- you know who you are -- I (and others, most likely) don't mind OT topics from time to time, and I/we can pretty easily delete without

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per

RE: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Julian De Marchi
I totally agree. Stop pushing your views on to us! Sign up to a political, or religious mailing list instead I do not need to hear these issues -Original Message- From: Niels Rasmussen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 08:53 To:

Re: Bio-Based Fuels (OT: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:38:49PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 16:22 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Bio-fuels *are* a great idea. Until you realize *how much* gasoline diesel this country uses (then add 3x more to that for the rest of the world), and the fact that

Re: [Fwd: [OT] Dell Confirmed its move !!!]

2007-02-26 Thread Max Hyre
Dear Debianists: Figured some people here who have been looking for Laptops recently might be interested in this tidbit of information from Dell. Indeed, it is good news. Note, however, that the site says ``we are working with Novell to certify our corporate client products for

working with windows larger than screen

2007-02-26 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Can anyone recommend a window manager or a desktop environment which efficiently handles windows that are larger than physical size of screen? Let me explain more clearly. Let's say you opened 4 files in gvim (using -O4) and you need 80 columns to correctly display each file. That means you need

Number of OT Posts

2007-02-26 Thread Mike McCarty
I joined here in order to learn a little bit better how to help my girlfriend administer her Debian machine, especially since I'm the one who recommended that she use Debian. I'm as loathe as anyone to stifle any impetus to communicate here, but I'm beginning to wonder whether the amount of

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 11:40, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I need something that will detect when I plug in my camera, and import any photos, and that's what gthumb does. FWIW,

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:51:30AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: I totally agree. Stop pushing your views on to us! Sign up to a political, or religious mailing list instead I'm sorry, but I don't see anyone pushing their views on anyone else. I see people exchanging ideas and

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 16:53, Niels Rasmussen wrote: John - wrote: On (24 and 25/02/07) mainly the same four or five folks wrote: [snip] What I dont want in my inbox, is mails that contains political and religious issues. You mean you don't have Icedove

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-26 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But they're still atheists. They don't believe in God, they believe in Stalin or Mao, or whomever. Thus, atheism *by itself* won't bring about a reasonable society. I think those folks sought to be viewed somewhat as deities, themselves, thereby removing

Re: Same Questions? (REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:05:10PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:53 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: these OT threads are just the water-cooler break after a long morning of churning out widgets. We all get together

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: in that same vein, I think us congressional representatives should be paid the mean income for their district :-P A /All/ representatives, not just federal. I've been beating that particular dead horse since 1968. Cybe R. Wizard -- When

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:40:07PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I grew up in the Air Force. The Air Force was pretty cool. A much different esprit de corps then what I've heard of the other branches. It is definitely a different animal -- much higher incoming ASVAB scores for example.

Repository

2007-02-26 Thread Baz
Hello. I need help getting into my source.list to delete some lines. How do I change the permissions? I've tried Synaptic, but the lines I need to delete aren't there. Sebastian -- ...heart and soulone will burn. - Joy Division

RE: Repository

2007-02-26 Thread Julian De Marchi
/etc/apt/source.list _ From: Baz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 08:16 To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Repository Hello. I need help getting into my source.list to delete some lines. How do I change the

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:08:02PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 14:57, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: This has always confused me: Who does *not* know that the purpose of an Army (and, by extension, the Marines) is to kill people and break things? People who play America's Army?

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 16:57, Mike McCarty wrote: I joined here in order to learn a little bit better how to help my girlfriend administer her Debian machine, especially since I'm the one who recommended that she use Debian. I'm as loathe as anyone to stifle

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:00:09PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Never quite understood why when a woman gets pregnant it's God's will and we shouldn't mess with it but when the man or woman are incapable of bearing child they turn to science to fix God's will that they not have children...

Re: Repository

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 16:16, Baz wrote: Hello. I need help getting into my source.list to delete some lines. How do I change the permissions? I've tried Synaptic, but the lines I need to delete aren't there. - From a wide-enough xterm window: $ cat

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:20:52PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Nice one. I have cousins who've gone through just that -- totally pro-life, adamantly, virulently so. They've had a couple kids, had one ultimately die from some complicated horrible birth-defect-disease and now they're

Re: Etch installation problem

2007-02-26 Thread Marco De Vitis
On 24/02/2007 0:20, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 09:57:18PM +, Marco De Vitis wrote: I also found mention of a workaround: http://snipurl.com/1b5pm Is it safe? looks good to me. and indeed, I used that workaround today and it worked great. Thanks

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Tyler MacDonald wrote: Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list But does a debian-user-ot (or whatever) mailing list need to be hosted at debian.org? I think so; otherwise off-topic stuff will still end up in the help list... and

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:56:29PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: hmmm... used to be the Senate was elected by the state legislatures. Would you propose returning to that? (can't remember the amendment number offhand) I don't think its a bad idea. Especially when you look at current

Re: IceWeasel/FireFox 2.0.0.2

2007-02-26 Thread Craigevil
So far no one has been able come up with a fix to the homepage issue. There have been several bugs filed and a note about a svn patch. So hopefully the issue gets fixed soon. The strange thing about it is that it didn't affect everyone. Although a lot of people in the Sidux community seem to

Re: Configuring pptpd confusing

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:57:00PM +, Alan Chandler wrote: I have just installed pptpd on my etch system and am now confused about what configuration file is where Documentation seems to imply a /etc/pptpd.conf file, but there isn't one with the installation. There is a file

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-26 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Mike McCarty wrote: I'm as loathe as anyone to stifle any impetus to communicate here, but I'm beginning to wonder whether the amount of posting on religion/ atheism, the price of gasoline, abortion, politics in general, and other such topics isn't beginning to make the S/N ratio bad. It's

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:49:11PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: There is also FET (Federal Excise Tax). That's what all the xxx.xx 9/10 comes from. It's a luxury tax (you didn't know that gasoline is a luxury?). Just like the one passed in 1906 or thereabouts to pay for the Mexican-American

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Niels Rasmussen
Ron Johnson wrote: IRC? Thanks, I'm out of here, bye! -- /Niels Registred Linux user #133791 Get counted at http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 11:53:21PM +0100, Niels Rasmussen wrote: I've even considered to put the writers of political issues on my spamlist ! Then you will miss out on lots of good answers to other questions. This is the wrong forum to debate this !! What I dont want in my inbox, is

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-26 Thread Francis Healy
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 18:31, s. keeling wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez : On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:14:05AM -0800, Michael M. wrote: [snip] Every time I see men fighting about abortion, I wonder who the are they to

Re: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:51:30AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: I totally agree. Stop pushing your views on to us! Sign up to a political, or religious mailing list instead I do not need to hear these issues I don't about the others, but I don't push my views on others.

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 17:09, Mike McCarty wrote: Tyler MacDonald wrote: Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] While you're busy restarting that flame war again, why not also ressurect the one asking for so-called header munging, so people can

Re: Number of OT Posts

2007-02-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/26/07 16:57, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] and other such topics isn't beginning to make the S/N ratio bad. It's getting a little difficult to find the ON topic posts. Mozilla won't (AFAICT) let you ignore threads, but it will let you collapse them. So, collapse the

RE: OT

2007-02-26 Thread Julian De Marchi
How about just talk about debian on a debian list. Is that to hard? -Original Message- From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 09:03 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:51:30AM +1000, Julian De

Re: We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: While you're busy restarting that flame war again, why not also ressurect the one asking for so-called header munging, so people can just reply like to other lists, instead of having to reply-all and then delete the OP? Oh come

Re: Re: Debian 4

2007-02-26 Thread Phil Walton
Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 18:58 +, Doofus wrote: When? For the past seven months we've had under the news section at debian.org: Upcoming Release of Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 Upcoming. Is this an off-beat sense of humour on the part of the developers? Considering

Re: Re: Debian 4

2007-02-26 Thread Doofus
Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 18:58 +, Doofus wrote: When? For the past seven months we've had under the news section at debian.org: Upcoming Release of Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 Upcoming. Is this an off-beat sense of humour on the part of the developers? Considering

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