Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:34:56AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 08:24, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [snip] 3) Anything God does is, by definition, right. While true from a Believer's POV, relying on it for justification is an EXTREMELY slippery slope towards theocracy. Why? I

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:37:28AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 21:07 +0800, Wang Xu wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:01:50AM -0400, Tom Grove wrote: Hello all...I am new to this Debian thing :-) I used it in the Woody days but moved over to the FreeBSD world for

Re: Purging bad exim4 stuff

2007-05-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 15:02 +0300, David Baron wrote: I have a non-zero panic log and other logcheck item show frozen messages and stuff on permanent non-deliver status and such. A lot of these items are old. If I try to remove them using webmin, often they are locked. How might I flush

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-09 Thread Amy Templeton
Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps they can provide an easy pointy-clicky-gimmik that transforms their doc files to something useful. It may be as simple as adding a button to a tool bar, right beside the save as doc file, a save as something useful button. The

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:00:39AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: There is great debate as to whether the Hebrew says kill or murder. Since, in the Old Testament, YHWH (the Tetragrammaton, or Name of God) both in Law and for conquest tells the Israelites to kill people, it is logical that the

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:54:57AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 08:11, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:23:13AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 05:10, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:08:42PM +1000, SB wrote: Ron Johnson wrote:

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:25:34PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is another. See, I thought the main reason that many Europeans were

Re: How to make a kernel starting dhcp before it mount root?

2007-05-09 Thread Jeff D
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Magicloud wrote: Dear all, I want to make a diskless debian using nfsroot. While I followed the nfsboot package and some articles on the internet, and I got a kernel that panic on mounting root, it seems that the ethernet card is up but has no dhcp ip. So how to

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:30:36AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: So it seems you put your full trust in those people to make a good translation. Don't you see a contradiction here? I do not. I put my full trust in God to accurately preserve His Word. Seriously, why would I believe

Re: Support For ATI Sapphire Radeon Graphics Card

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
Redefined Horizons wrote: I talked a buddy of mine into installing Linux on his new computer in a dual-boot environment with MS Windows. He was able to get the operating system installed without any major problems. However, he is having some problem with his graphics card. He is using the ATI

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi Greg. Greg Folkert, 09.05.2007 17:37: On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 21:07 +0800, Wang Xu wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:01:50AM -0400, Tom Grove wrote: Hello all...I am new to this Debian thing :-) I used it in the Woody days but moved over to the FreeBSD world for the last few years. I

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Bob McGowan
bdeferme wrote: Tom Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all...I am new to this Debian thing :-) I used it in the Woody days but moved over to the FreeBSD world for the last few years. I recently installed Testing (Lenny) and see the left bracket in my /usr/bin directory and do not know what

Re: Re: xhosts problem

2007-05-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 17:46 +0530, Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:19:13 +0530 Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped buncha stuff] Isn't there any way to give fedora-like ability to open xwindows-dependent programmes as the original user. Some /etc/Xhost*

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:19:12AM -0500, Gnu_Raiz wrote: I personally believe that we are all aliens, derived from some super soup left over from the planets which were created when the galaxy was formed. I thought from physics and the conservation of energy that nothing was formed from

Re: Re: debian linux-image update

2007-05-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 14:20 +0530, Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: Ok, so that's why menu.lst looks the same. The time stamp was for the day I updated, so that means it has updated the kernel, right? The vmlinux file in /boot has date stamp of the day I installed etch, but the initrd.img file has

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 18:01 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: Hi Greg. Greg Folkert, 09.05.2007 17:37: On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 21:07 +0800, Wang Xu wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:01:50AM -0400, Tom Grove wrote: Hello all...I am new to this Debian thing :-) I used it in the Woody days

Re: HOWTO:rebuild the Debian kernel + nvidia

2007-05-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, To use the proprietary nvidia driver with the latest Debian kernel in Sid you'll run into troubles. There are two ways around it: 1. Use the Debian kernel and change modpost + the nvidia driver, as documented here: http://grizach.servebeer.com/nvpatch/index.php

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:40:17AM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: There are those of us who believe that claims of discrimination became trite many years ago. I'm inclined to disagree; it is more subtle now, but it still exists. Do some reading on the concepts of privilege

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:25:14PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 18:01 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: Hi Greg. Greg Folkert, 09.05.2007 17:37: On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 21:07 +0800, Wang Xu wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:01:50AM -0400, Tom Grove wrote: Hello

Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 09:56 -0400, Victor Munoz wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 04:34:38PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: From the description you gave above, it sounds like you should have everything needed to at least display Japanese, so what exactly goes wrong? Can you for example copy

Re: [OT] SWF to MP4 converter

2007-05-09 Thread Michael M.
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 23:17 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: If you want to download the raw FLV video that's being streamed through a SWF file on a web page, you can use the youtube-dl package (included in Etch) or the VideoDownload addon for Firefox. I use clive (available in Debian) to download

Interaction among debian packages to print letters on screen

2007-05-09 Thread Eugen Dedu
Hi, I have created a small page, http://eugen.dedu.free.fr/fonts.html, about my current knowledge about how debian packages interact to print letters on screen (something like how fonts work). I do not have enough knowledge to continue this page, but I imagine it is interesting because I

Re: Support For ATI Sapphire Radeon Graphics Card

2007-05-09 Thread Dave Witbrodt
Redefined Horizons wrote: However, he is having some problem with his graphics card. He is using the ATI Sapphire Radeon 1650. Does anyone now if it is still necessary to go through these steps to install support for the video card? http://www.debianhelp.org/node/4447 I have used 2

Re: [ in /usr/bin Question

2007-05-09 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob McGowan wrote: bdeferme wrote: Tom Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all...I am new to this Debian thing :-) I used it in the Woody days but moved over to the FreeBSD world for the last few years. I recently installed Testing (Lenny)

OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-09 Thread Greg Folkert
Come on, we all come here for TOPICAL discussions and bare metal Debian stuff. I mean, I might just have to unsubscribe and find another venue to find my fix for Debian only topics. Heck, even Debian Devel have been obsessed with the number string: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 And

Re: Support For ATI Sapphire Radeon Graphics Card

2007-05-09 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On May 9, 11:10 am, Peter Hillier-Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If his problems are anything like mine he would do better buying a non-ATI replacement! Amen. And not just on Linux. Installing or uninstalling drivers on Windows XP can be just as frustrating. Most end up buying third-party

Re: Debian Install + USB DVD

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:35:05PM +0400, Павел Осмоловский wrote: Hello! I download distib Debian 4.0. When I try setup it, installer talk me, that he don`t see my cd-rom. Desperate attempt search drivers for my Sony 820UL - without result. What can I do? Thank. you'll probabyl

Re: Failed to install: Detect and mount CD-ROM failed

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:54:34AM +0100, Stephen Turner wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 12:14:53PM +0100, Stephen Turner wrote: Trying to install etch from the netinst CD on a two-month old desktop machine. Boot from CD, choose language and location, and then

Re: grub and rootfs as LVM

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:23:52AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: Try use /dev/mapper/volume-root instead. I'm not sure why, but I recently had a similar problem where using /dev/Debian/root didn't work but /dev/mapper/Debian-root did (even though once the boot is over, /dev/Debian/root can

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-09 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: Come on, we all come here for TOPICAL discussions and bare metal Debian stuff. I mean, I might just have to unsubscribe and find another venue to find my fix for Debian only topics. Heck, even Debian Devel have been

Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Victor Munoz
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:42:47PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: You might want to change to an rxvt that does unicode or kxvt. It appears that mutt/jed are having a tough time picking up the right encoding from gnome-terminal. Some old hacks (from 2004) on the jed-users mailing list show this

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-09 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:25:34PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:56:09AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 19:51, Eric d'Alibut wrote: On 5/8/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wicked pissah! Wicked pissah?? Translation: really excellent.

Re: mutt is the bomb! (LDAP addressbook integration)

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:29:57PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Karl E. Jorgensen: In vim, you don't need to select the text first though - 'gq' reformats the current paragraph. As an alternative in Vim, you could try :set filetype=mail textwidth=72 formatoptions+=ac OMG! I

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:44:13AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:29:39AM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: maybe you should educate them a little bit? A fem in the LUG would have serious impact. I'm sure you could sway policy any ol' way you wanted...

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:14:08AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/08/07 23:29, Amy Templeton wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] maybe you should educate them a little bit? A fem in the LUG would have serious impact. I'm sure you could sway policy any ol' way you wanted...

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:56:05PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 14:04 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Joe said it was okay and he's the resident ethicist so stfu n00b!!! :) Damn, don't I wish. a recent dvd problem, that would have come in handy. see what I

Re: etch help

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:27:32PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back again, synaptic package manager search openoffice openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core select mark for installation could not mark all for installation or update the following packages have unresolved

Re: fetchmail and spambouce

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:52:44PM +0100, ns007532 wrote: Hi all, I'm using fetchmail and i'm not sure that this configuration is correct: set logfile /var/log/fetchmail.log set no bouncemail set no spambounce according to a quick check of man fetchmail and fetchmailrc, those look

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:34:46AM -, Thomas Dickey wrote: Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and press CTRL+ALT+F1? Well...if I do that while I'm still in the XTerm, I see... ^[[1;7P ...but I think that's just XTerm freaking out. When another frame is focused and I press

Re: OT - Dilbert on the ethics of e-mail etiquette

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:17:43PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 14:52:28 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 09:55:19PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 15:28:14 -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:00:19AM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what happens when you disable your xmodmap with a us layout? Oh dear...this is disturbing...it works properly. But...but...I need to have Control where Caps Lock used to be, and I

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-09 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:56:09AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 19:51, Eric d'Alibut wrote: On 5/8/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] SWF to MP4 converter

2007-05-09 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:47:31AM -0700, Michael M. wrote: [big snip] ffmpeg -i goodvideo.flv goodvideo.avi. You can tell clive to download and convert in one go, but since I really only convert maybe 10% (if that), I haven't bothered. You could of course just play the FLV files in

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:58:06PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: Come on, we all come here for TOPICAL discussions and bare metal Debian stuff. Cautions: Debian-user is intended for topical application only. Not to be taken internally. If accidently ingested, seek professional help immediately. Do

Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:44:26PM -0400, Victor Munoz wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:42:47PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: You might want to change to an rxvt that does unicode or kxvt. It appears that mutt/jed are having a tough time picking up the right encoding from gnome-terminal. Some

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 08 May 2007 22:07:52 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curt Howland wrote: [snip] The Democrats have held a majority in Congress for 182 days. I stopped holding my breath a long time ago. It doesn't take being an

I/O errors from HP LaserJet 3330 when scanning

2007-05-09 Thread Celejar
Hi, I have an HP LaserJet 3330 AIO, connected via USB. Running Sid, hplip, CUPS friends installed. Printing works fine, scanning doesn't. Using either the sane ([x]scanimage) or xsane frontends, the PC initiates a scan, begins acquiring data, and then fails with an 'I/O error', usually between

Re: swap

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:38:44AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:18:29PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:42:43PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:46:35AM +0100, andy wrote: I tried setting ulimit

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 08 May 2007 23:39:06 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:08:11 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jostein Elvaker Haande wrote:

OT: Not _all_ the OT stuff

2007-05-09 Thread du . lists
On Wed, 09 May 2007 19:25:53 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing we know for sure: Roberto really takes his religion seriously. Good for him. Na. Just another wasted (possibly valuable) mind ... ...and btw. I guess no one suggests _pure_ OnTopicness here. We're all human

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:08:35 +0200 Joe Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I learned in school politics = power, and power corrupts, so what it boils down, how many politicians are trustworthy? I say very few. provocation GNU / linux and Free Software are powerful; do they corrupt?

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:04:41 +1000 SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/08/07 19:55, SB wrote: Celejar wrote: I don't ignore it; I agree that religion has made ordinary people do extraordinarily cruel things; my point was that this isn't a problem exclusive to religion,

sound recording configuration problem

2007-05-09 Thread Charles Berman
I'm running etch and having trouble recording sound. My card is a Sound Fusion CS46xx with Cirrus Logic CS4297A Rev 4 (according to alsamixer). Sounds plays OK; however, I can't use the microphone. My goal is to use skype. I've tried adjusting everything I can think of to 100% with no

Re: For KDE: Re: how to hide the mouse pointer

2007-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 8 May 2007 11:02:13 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:30:00AM -0400, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2007 11:04:02 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Popescu) wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:27:45PM -0400, Celejar wrote: Minor

Re: For KDE: Re: how to hide the mouse pointer

2007-05-09 Thread Manon Metten
Hi guys, Thank you all for answering my question about the meaning of #!/bin/bash. I've learned so much from following threads on this list. Greetings, Manon.

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 08 May 2007 15:50:47 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Heh. Everyone starts out as a newbie. My first Linux was pre-installed Mandrake. I'd have never survived Debian back then when Woody was still Testing. I started with BasLinux booted off floppies (I didn't have

Re: Debian Install + USB DVD

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:14:30PM +0400, Павел wrote: Thanks a lot! But maybe I can get a floppy-driver for my Sony 820-UL? I didn`t want erase my Windows, because I beginner in Linux-community. Thank. if there is a floppy drive, youshould be able to use it. See the debian installation manual

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-09 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
On Tue, 8 May 2007 17:42:06 -0400 Eric d'Alibut wrote: I seem to recall a linux command line wave player -- wavp, or waveplay, or something like that? Does that ring any bells with anybody? It's called wavplay, I just don't see it in the Etch repositories. Googling for 'wavplay' and 'debian',

Re: Support For ATI Sapphire Radeon Graphics Card

2007-05-09 Thread Gnu_Raiz
major snip Any binary driver in my book is bad, I hope you don't plan on using mythtv, or anything that requires xvmc on any new Nvidia card. I wouldn't start mentioning driver support under Windows either. If you did not clean out the existing drivers under windows you proably have

RE: Debian Install + USB DVD

2007-05-09 Thread Павел
Thanks a lot! -Original Message- From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:25 PM To: Павел Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian Install + USB DVD On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:14:30PM +0400, Павел wrote: Thanks a lot! But maybe

Re: Problem with compiling kernel

2007-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 08 May 2007 17:29:38 -0500 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2007 16:11:54 -0400, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 08 May 2007 12:47:28 -0500 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2007 16:10:29 +0200, Raffaele Morelli [EMAIL

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Anson Gardner
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 11:04, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:19:12AM -0500, Gnu_Raiz wrote: I personally believe that we are all aliens, derived from some super soup left over from the planets which were created when the galaxy was formed. I thought from physics and the

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-09 Thread mmiller3
Amy == Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey all, Can anybody recommend a *really, really convincing* source of information I can give people/my college that will aid in deterring them from trying to force people to use MS-Office files (by sending them via email

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:25:34 +0200 Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:39:06PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: That type of law is one reason. Iraq and general foreign policy is

Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 13:44 -0400, Victor Munoz wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:42:47PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: You might also want to submit a bug against gnome-terminal for this. I would be very surprised if this was an actual bug in gnome-terminal. All this is very strange of course,

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-09 Thread Amy Templeton
Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole mission is a textbook example of how it probably is impossible to bring about democracy, peace and freedom by application of force. Impossible? Where were Germany and Japan before and after WWII?

Re: Command line wave player

2007-05-09 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 5/9/07, Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's called wavplay, I just don't see it in the Etch repositories. Googling for 'wavplay' and 'debian', you will find .deb's of it though. Bingo! That's it. It's not exactly leaping off the google pages I have, but aplay is doing its job

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread judd
On 9 May, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:02:24AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Ron Johnson: By definition, the natural man is *not* a spritiual man, and hence not By no means a universally held Christian belief.

Re: Really annoying.

2007-05-09 Thread Joe
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/07 15:38, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/08/07 14:17, Joe Hart wrote: [snip] flame Joe Hart is not worthy of being an ethicist. Although he does have strong opinions, that is exactly what they are. I mean

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread judd
On 9 May, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:49:41PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: ... I seem to remember that there are also a fair number of contradictions and race conditions between various parts of it. Please point one out. Regards, -Roberto One

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread judd
On 9 May, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:45:49PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: 2) The bible that you refer to is full of contradictions. If one is not to commit murder, based in the Ten Commandments, then how can a god request that one sacrifice one's son? That is murder.

driver for ati mobility radeon

2007-05-09 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello, I am running a fresh install of etch in an amd64 box. The system has an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 video card. xserver-org choosed for it the ati driver with the radeon module during the installing. Since I am having problems regarding the gui, I would like to give fglrx-driver a try, since

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:47:47 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:54:57AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 08:11, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:23:13AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 05:10, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed,

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-09 Thread Joe
Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alas, The United States of Europe is on its way. I just hope I am dead before it is formed. Please don't... The Union of European Socialist Republics is much nearer the mark. Did you read the original Constitution? -- To

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Miles Fidelman
Florian Kulzer wrote: Well, since we are getting all scientific, the ratio of the diameter of a circle to its circumference is in fact 3, if all you have is one significant digit, which it appears is all we have from the text. Now, if it said ten point zero zero cubits and five point zero zero

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Wackojacko
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Well, since we are getting all scientific, the ratio of the diameter of a circle to its circumference is in fact 3, if all you have is one significant digit, which it appears is all we have from the text. Now, if it said ten point zero zero cubits and five point zero

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-09 Thread Amy Templeton
mmiller3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amy == Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey all, Can anybody recommend a *really, really convincing* source of information I can give people/my college that will aid in deterring them from trying to force people to use MS-Office

Re: driver for ati mobility radeon

2007-05-09 Thread Wackojacko
Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hello, I am running a fresh install of etch in an amd64 box. The system has an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 video card. xserver-org choosed for it the ati driver with the radeon module during the installing. Since I am having problems regarding the gui, I would like to

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:12:05 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:49:41PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:23:13 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 05:10, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:08:42PM +1000, SB wrote:

mail proxy with GUI statistics

2007-05-09 Thread Siju George
Hi, I would like to implement a mail proxy that sits in between the LAN and Internet and connects to mailservers on the internet on behalf of the clients in the LAN. Also want a GUI that gives the statistics like who sent mail to whom at what time etc. Could some one please tell me what would

program to rip just audio from avseq.DAT files on VCDs

2007-05-09 Thread Siju George
Hi, I have a few Avseq.DAT files from VCDs that can be played as video. Is there a Software that can Just rip the audio from it and give it to me in any of the popular audio formats? thankyou so much :-) Kind Regards Siju -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion

2007-05-09 Thread Amy Templeton
Wackojacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Well, since we are getting all scientific, the ratio of the diameter of a circle to its circumference is in fact 3, if all you have is one significant digit, which it appears is all we have from the text. Now, if it said ten

Re: program to rip just audio from avseq.DAT files on VCDs

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Siju George wrote: Hi, I have a few Avseq.DAT files from VCDs that can be played as video. Is there a Software that can Just rip the audio from it and give it to me in any of the popular audio formats? I am almost certain mencoder or the ffmpeg command line tool will do what you want. Both

CMU Sphinx on Debian

2007-05-09 Thread Siju George
Hi, Is there anyone running http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/html/cmusphinx.php on Debian and successfully converting audio into text with a decent accuracy ( 70-80% ) I have a few files in the MP3 format. has anyone successfully converted them to text? I would really appreciate some help in

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Amy Templeton wrote: It now takes place in New Jersey, and God's character is developed much further (a weird sense of humor comes through in older, now-deprecated versions, but now the more twisted elements are highlighted). I saw New Jersey and I thought sure you were going to refer to the

How do I add a gateway to eth1?

2007-05-09 Thread Jonathan Wilson
I need help figuring out how to add a second gateway to eth1, so that ping -I eth1 www.google.com works as well as through the default gw on eth0 I need it because I'm I have a server with 2 NICs: eth0 is an external IP, eth1 is connected to the private LAN (192.168.0.) and this server is

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion

2007-05-09 Thread Amy Templeton
Andrew J. Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy Templeton wrote: It now takes place in New Jersey, and God's character is developed much further (a weird sense of humor comes through in older, now-deprecated versions, but now the more twisted elements are highlighted). I saw New Jersey and I

Debian and MSA1000 SmartArray

2007-05-09 Thread Rafael Mejías
Hi, I'm new with GNU/Linux and I'm working with the following equipment: -HP Proliant DL380 G4 server with Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 Etch (kernel 2.6.18-4-686). -HP SmartArray MSA1000. The server (Proliant) is connected with the array (MSA1000) trough a QLogic QLA2312 Fibre Channel Adapter. I have

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:59:15PM -0400, Celejar wrote: That's exactly the point; humans being human, they will do cruel things even without claiming an exclusive franchise on truth. Perhaps that is the sort of thing that drives some children to be cruel to animals. Things like burning

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 15:54, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:12:05 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:49:41PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:23:13 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:39:59PM -0500, Anson Gardner wrote: Good idea as far as it goes. I think that like many other things, the choice (literal, metaphorical) is not really binary. My thoughts on that are that you have to decide what is meant literally / figuratively based on the

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 10:47, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:54:57AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 08:11, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:23:13AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/09/07 05:10, Roberto C.

Re: passwd and ldap

2007-05-09 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:58:06PM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote: Hello, I set up my system to authenticate against ldap, id ; getent passwd; getent group # all show the correct information However when I su to a user and do passwd the following happens: $ passwd passwd: User not known

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:12:03PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9 May, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:02:24AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Ron Johnson: By definition, the natural man is *not* a spritiual man, and hence not

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 16:42, Amy Templeton wrote: Andrew J. Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy Templeton wrote: It now takes place in New Jersey, and God's character is developed much further (a weird sense of humor comes through in older, now-deprecated versions,

Re: Debian and MSA1000 SmartArray

2007-05-09 Thread Alex Samad
Hi What is not working, are you not seeing the qlogic card or not seeing the MSA HP have there own qlogic drivers I think available from hp.com/go/debian, they are compile form source. you will also need there tool to administer the msa1000 - need to create some luns - i think this is

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/07 10:30, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [snip] I do not. I put my full trust in God to accurately preserve His Word. Seriously, why would I believe that God is all powerful yet incapable of preserving His Word? Not all words and phrases can

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 04:28:53PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9 May, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:49:41PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: ... I seem to remember that there are also a fair number of contradictions and race conditions between various parts

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:29:55PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: $ wcalc 10*pi = 31.4159 The god from the bible can create the universe, but he cannot round to the nearest integer correctly? Did Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva have to help him with the delicate balance of the natural constants?

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