Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 19:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 18:13 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Henrique, I already mentioned it: It is the process Xorg, which hangs. Hm? I locked some packages by Synaptic, not the package xorg, but it anyway currently won't be upgraded,

Re: daft newbie questions

2011-10-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 18:06:31 +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: I thought Wheezey was still on Gnome 2.30, not even 2.32? I guessed the OP was using an Evolution from another distribution. Im hoping Gnome 3.4 or 3.6 will be polished enough to make it into Wheezey when it goes stable. GNOME 3 is

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 19:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 19:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 18:13 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Henrique, I already mentioned it: It is the process Xorg, which hangs. Hm? I locked some packages by Synaptic, not the

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 13:23 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: 7. I reverted to xserver-xorg version before the last one, but although it was a little bit better, it was not good as expected. Reverted from to which version? Which driver (exactly) are you using? How is it installed? Please also

Locale set to C

2011-10-01 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis
Hi, on a new Wheezy installation locale reports all the LC_* options set to C. As a result I can't see greek, they display as question marks in gnome-terminal. /etc/default/locale appropriately sets the default locale to en_US.UTF-8. I also tried /etc/profile and /etc/environment but the locale

Re: daft newbie questions

2011-10-01 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:33:48 +, Camaleón wrote: If you like GNOME 3 + gnome-shell then you're fortunate. I switched from GNOME to LXDE when Fedora 15 emerged with GNOME3, and have never looked back. I was a happy enough GNOME 2 user, but with hindsight wish I had moved sooner. I now

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2011 schrieb Wolodja Wentland: On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 13:23 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: 7. I reverted to xserver-xorg version before the last one, but although it was a little bit better, it was not good as expected. Reverted from to which version? Which driver

Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Do I need to switch back to Windoof's Thunderbird for Linux, or is there any usable Linux Mailer? Very cool, I used the undo option from Evolution 3.0.3 and suddenly an unfinished mail was send to the Ardours's list, with lots of very stupid stuff included. I was going to edit this to something

Re: What is the right way to use consolekit with startx?

2011-10-01 Thread Kamil Polok
Try the following in .xinitrc: exec ck-launch-session window-manager-startup-command Regards, KP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 20:47 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2011 schrieb Wolodja Wentland: On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 13:23 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: 7. I reverted to xserver-xorg version before the last one, but although it was a little bit better, it was not good

Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Sorry, I was pissed. On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 20:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Do I need to switch back to Windoof's Thunderbird for Linux, or is there any usable Linux Mailer? Very cool, I used the undo option from Evolution 3.0.3 and suddenly an unfinished mail was send to the Ardours's

Re: Locale set to C

2011-10-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 21:21:23 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: Hi, on a new Wheezy installation locale reports all the LC_* options set to C. As a result I can't see greek, they display as question marks in gnome-terminal. Hum... and what returns locale -a? /etc/default/locale

Re: wrestling with xrandr

2011-10-01 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:47:26 Harry Putnam wrote: Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid (Installed from new 11.4 install disc (the small one)) 11.4??? Wheezy hasn't got a number yet, and Squeeze is 6.0. So do you in fact mean Ubuntu? And if so, where does the wheezy/sid come from? Or am I

Re: intermitant keyboard problem

2011-10-01 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 11:12:03AM +, Camale�n wrote: On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:35:21 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: .snip I'll copy a reply I sent to Scott Ferguson off list: Thanks for the reply. It turned out to be a sticky key option in the accessibility

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Wolodja, http://snapshot.debian.org/ I would also recommend to install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges. Good luck! I already did! And I tested a little bit more. First I downgraded everything to xserver-xorg 1.7.3. Then step-by-step updated again. I could find out, the proble is

Re: What is the right way to use consolekit with startx?

2011-10-01 Thread Brian
On Sat 01 Oct 2011 at 20:30:25 +0200, Kamil Polok wrote: Try the following in .xinitrc: exec ck-launch-session window-manager-startup-command Does this work? As in: you have tested it on an ustable install and found it to work whether startx or xdm is used. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Walter Hurry
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:29:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Do I need to switch back to Windoof's Thunderbird for Linux, or is there any usable Linux Mailer? Very cool, I used the undo option from Evolution 3.0.3 and suddenly an unfinished mail was send to the Ardours's list, with lots of very

Re: wrestling with xrandr

2011-10-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:47:26 Harry Putnam wrote: Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid (Installed from new 11.4 install disc (the small one)) 11.4??? Wheezy hasn't got a number yet, and Squeeze is 6.0. So do you in fact mean Ubuntu? And if so, where does

Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Wayne Topa
On 10/01/2011 03:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:29:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Do I need to switch back to Windoof's Thunderbird for Linux, or is there any usable Linux Mailer? SNIPPED d A post like that does not deserve a constructive response. Plonk. It

Re: OT: laptop choice

2011-10-01 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony Campbell wrote: Having used both Thinkpads and HP, I'd never again choose a laptop that only had a touchpad. I find it almost impossible to avoid hitting the thing accidentally,. with unexpected results. The little joystick on the

Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:49:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Sorry, I was pissed. Sure? I didn't even notice :-) Okay, but for the next time take a deep breath for a few seconds before posting all that heap of insane wording. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-10-01 18:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It could be, that you are using the FLOSS nouveau driver, this driver usually is a PITA. Could you please stop this FUD, or at least back it up with something useful (i.e. bug reports)? There're packages for proprietary NVIDIA drivers. Yes, and

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Hi Wolodja,     http://snapshot.debian.org/ I would also recommend to install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges. Good luck! I already did! And I tested a little bit more. First I downgraded everything to

Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Thierry Chatelet
Well, the first question I could and would have answered, but after the rest I was so disgusted that I did not wish to try assisting. I left the original post intact so that anyone who did not read the whole thread could see what was going on. I guess you took a deep breath in between the

Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-10-01, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Sorry, I was pissed. In the British or the American sense? It's hard to tell. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pissed On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 20:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Do I need to switch back to Windoof's

Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:23:10 Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2011-10-01, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Sorry, I was pissed. In the British or the American sense? It's hard to tell. Since a mere 20 minutes later he wrote that he *was* pissed, it must have been in the American

[OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 19:22:31 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:23:10 Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2011-10-01, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Sorry, I was pissed. In the British or the American sense? It's hard to tell. I didn't know that the American sense

Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 02 October 2011 01:09:16 Stephen Powell wrote: In England, tea means a full meal. Sorry to contradict you, but this is inaccurate. I don't know how the numbers pan out percentage-wise, since the use of tea in that sense is both regional and class based. (Yes, that terrible British

accessing fonts for emacs (Inconsolata)

2011-10-01 Thread Harry Putnam
I was convinced by arguments seen thru google, that I should install `inconsolata' fonts... did so but now emacs knows nothing about it. Googling on that subject has turned up a number of hits but so far it all seems somewhat dated. Discussing the use of xorg.conf to point to fonts and such.

Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Weaver
On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 20:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 19:22:31 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:23:10 Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2011-10-01, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Sorry, I was pissed. In the

Re: [OT] British vs. American English

2011-10-01 Thread John Hasler
Stephen Powell writes: And I didn't know that the British sense existed. Amazing, isn't it? Two cultures divided by a common language. Look up the British meanings of fanny and stuffed. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:44:41 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: On Sunday 02 October 2011 01:09:16 Stephen Powell wrote: In England, tea means a full meal. Sorry to contradict you, but this is inaccurate. ... Hmm. Maybe that's Australia I was thinking of and I got the two countries mixed up.

Re: [OT] British vs. American English

2011-10-01 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:36:23 -0400 (EDT), John Hasler wrote: Stephen Powell writes: And I didn't know that the British sense existed. Amazing, isn't it? Two cultures divided by a common language. Look up the British meanings of fanny and stuffed. I did. They're quite different from the

Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Weaver
On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:44:41 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: On Sunday 02 October 2011 01:09:16 Stephen Powell wrote: In England, tea means a full meal. Sorry to contradict you, but this is inaccurate. ...

Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Weaver
On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:39:29 +1000 Weaver wea...@riseup.net wrote: On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:44:41 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: On Sunday 02 October 2011 01:09:16 Stephen Powell wrote: In England, tea means a

Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 01:44:41AM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 02 October 2011 01:09:16 Stephen Powell wrote: In England, tea means a full meal. Sorry to contradict you, but this is inaccurate. I don't know how the numbers pan out percentage-wise, since the use of tea in that sense is

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 00:58 +0800, lina wrote: On Oct 2, 2011, at 0:16, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 00:03 +0800, lina wrote: On Oct 1, 2011, at 23:50, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 21:04 +0800, lina wrote:

Re: daft newbie questions

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 17:33 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 18:06:31 +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: I thought Wheezey was still on Gnome 2.30, not even 2.32? I guessed the OP was using an Evolution from another distribution. Current Evolution for testing's GNOME 2.30.2 is 3.0.3. If

Re: [OT] British vs. American English

2011-10-01 Thread Doug
On 10/01/2011 09:35 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:36:23 -0400 (EDT), John Hasler wrote: Stephen Powell writes: And I didn't know that the British sense existed. Amazing, isn't it? Two cultures divided by a common language. Look up the British meanings of fanny and stuffed.

[OT] FLOSS implementation of ActiveSync server?

2011-10-01 Thread Gregory Seidman
Recent versions of MS Exchange Server implement a protocol (targeted at mobile devices) named ActiveSync. I know that Google supports ActiveSync for its various services, but those are the only two implementations of the protocol AFAIK. I'm hoping there's actually a FLOSS ActiveSync implementation

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 22:39 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2011-10-01 18:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It could be, that you are using the FLOSS nouveau driver, this driver usually is a PITA. Could you please stop this FUD, or at least back it up with something useful (i.e. bug reports)?

Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 01:44 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 02 October 2011 01:09:16 Stephen Powell wrote: In England, tea means a full meal. Sorry to contradict you, but this is inaccurate. I don't know how the numbers pan out percentage-wise, since the use of tea in that sense is both

Re: Evolution version

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 16:08 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 11:49:10 +0100, Richard Bown wrote: Hi D6 is shipped with Evolution 2.30.3, the last version I was using was 2.32 and I backed up every thing , but now it wont restore, the tar file is OK, I suspect it knows the

Re: Permission Problem with xsane - more

2011-10-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/10/11 03:25, Thomas H. George wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 04:20:01PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I can run xsane as root but not as user tom although tom is a member of the scanner group. What other group membership is required? As suggested by responders I have confirmed that I

Re: wrestling with xrandr

2011-10-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/10/11 01:47, Harry Putnam wrote: Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes: NOTE: Correction to monitor native resolution posted in OP Native resolution: 1920 x 1200 (I previously said 1900x1280) Thanks. It would be appreciated, greatly, if you could use Reply to continue

Re: [OT] FLOSS implementation of ActiveSync server?

2011-10-01 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 22:53 -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: Recent versions of MS Exchange Server implement a protocol (targeted at mobile devices) named ActiveSync. I know that Google supports ActiveSync for its various services, but those are the only two implementations of the protocol AFAIK.

Re: [OT] British vs. American English

2011-10-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/10/11 11:36, John Hasler wrote: Stephen Powell writes: And I didn't know that the British sense existed. Amazing, isn't it? Two cultures divided by a common language. Look up the British meanings of fanny and stuffed. Fanny seems to move from front to back, depending on the speakers

Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: Weaver wea...@riseup.net Subject: Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:14:15 +0200 On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 10:51 +1000, Weaver

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 04:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 22:39 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2011-10-01 18:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It could be, that you are using the FLOSS nouveau driver, this driver usually is a PITA. Could you please stop this FUD, or

Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:23:10 Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2011-10-01, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Sorry, I was pissed. In the British or the American sense? It's hard to tell. Since a mere 20 minutes later he wrote that he *was* pissed, it must have

Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face)

2011-10-01 Thread Doug
On 10/02/2011 12:31 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: Weaverwea...@riseup.net Subject: Re: [OT] British vs. American English (was Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:14:15 +0200 On

Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face

2011-10-01 Thread Klaus Wolf
Hi, I use Evolution since over 10 years and I never get a problem. On other site, a customer that just would have windoofs calls me up two to three times a week because he has any trouble with posting. If there is any one, who is not in order to use evolution, this guy should use windoofs for

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